This is the same Pickens that Swiftboated John Kerry, right?

This is the same Pickens that Swiftboated John Kerry, right? Then reneged on his $1 Million dollar wager (twice) that nothing in the swift boat ads could be proven false, right? Yes, he's one and the same.

This is also the Pickens that has contributed more than $5 Million in campaign and political contributions to Gee Dubya and his neo-conservative cronies, the very ones that have polarized the country, told us we were invading Iraq because of non-existent WMDs etc. etc.

And now it turns out that it is ALL ABOUT THE OIL.

And here we have Slim Pickens telling us we all have to "get on the same page" and "be on the same team" and "elect the right leadership". I wonder if the Pickster thinks any of those "right" leaders ought to be Democrats?

Let's face it. I don't care how wealthy a mogul this guy is, he has absolutely zero credibility if you read his bio. Go ahead and read his Wikipedia bio with an unbiased eye, then tell me you trust this guy to tell us how to save the country. This guy trying to unify America is like Attila the Hun trying to unify Asia and Western Europe.

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Permalink Reply by Eric on July 8, 2008 at 5:29pm: "That's why I always try and find several sources on everything....and believe it or not, even though I am a conservative, I purposely try to search for information with the liberal slant in the Search text as well. I want to see both sides of a story, then use my own common sense to draw my conclusion. And in the end, having done that....I end up being a conervative."

You're not a conservative. You're a NEOCONSERVATIVE. I know this is a fact because you're not too bright, and quick to label others who don't agree with you as "liberals".

I hate to break it to ya, bub, but I am far more politically conservative than you will ever be. In my opinion, it is YOU that is the liberal. Hell, I bet you think the Iraq war was good and that it had nothing to do with the oil. I'll bet you're in favor of the Patriot Act, and think warantless wiretaps are great. I'll bet you agree that locking certain American citizens up without due process just because the Prez says they're terrorists is A-okay. And I'll bet you think the Constitution of the United States gives the President the authority to declare wars.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Tom on July 8, 2008 at 5:34pm: Jack: you're kidding, right ? u believe this only "plan" to solve the problem of foreign oil dependency ? C'mon. Nuclear, Drilling for our own oil to name a few. What do I plan to do ? Vote for the guy that is open to both of those...McCain....and do everythign I can to discredit the party that is against both of those.

Dr Berg: Ah, yet another classic liberal approach. Attack the person with an opposing point of view as not being a "unifier". Believe it or not, our country's founding fathers fought all the time about which direction to take the newly-formed country. And great companies fight all the time internally about what is the best way to take the company. In fact, I have read recently in a book called 'Good To Great' that it is those companies that encourage the mentality of "hashing it out" as ones that attain greatness. It's OK to argue...don't worry....we're not hurting anyone. Eric can take it :-) As can I.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Melanie on July 8, 2008 at 5:36pm: Eric,
You may think of yourself as a conservative, but I always refer to people as a liberal if they do one particular thing- that is, complain about the way someone else is trying to solve a problem without offering a solution of his own. We have gotten to a point where we can't just complain, we have to act. If you hate the idea or the people paying for it, let's hear your idea... that way we can see if it is any better.
Thanks for moving this conversation on to why you don't trust Pickens other than Wikepedia said something vague about him.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Eric on July 8, 2008 at 5:39pm: "Gee, you're a real unifier, aren't you? I guess you're right---let's let the Saudi princes determine our fate."

If this nation has to be purged by fire to get the jackals out, then so be it. Maybe another great phoenix will rise from the ashes.

But I certainly won't be putting my faith or trust in Mr. Pickens to tell me how to save this country. He's already done enough damage by propping up corporate globalists and neocon lackeys. Pickens does NOT have the best interests of this nation in mind, and his history proves this. If it weren't for people like him, we wouldn't be in this hole to begin with.

I recall that when Bill Clinton was president we were paying 80 cents for a gallon of gas. Fast forward 8 years, we have an oil tycoon as President who has declared war in Iraq under false pretenses, and an ex-Halliburton CEO as vice prez doling out no bid contracts to ... you guessed it ... Halliburton! and suddenly we're paying $4.50 a gallon? Whodda thunk it?

Now they're telling us the reason for the spike is OIL IS RUNNING OUT! Look out Chicken Little cuz dat sky be fallin! Must buy natural gas peeps! Must buy wind power! We dones bilked ya'll on da oil long enuff! Let's see if we can dupe these idiots on some other resource now!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Jeff on July 8, 2008 at 5:41pm: I guess you're one of the ones who was polarized. I'd say this plan is far better than either one of the candidates is offering AND definitely a little more to the left than the right.

BTW, Kerry swiftboated himself when he sold out his country for personal political gain. Bleh.

Don't be political on an issue that isn't.

ERIC! You think Bill Clinton gave us cheap gas? Bush is/was an oil tycoon? Halliburton has anything to do with oil prices? You think we would be bilked on wind power? Heehee. That's a fairly illogical rant. You are obviously a political ideologue.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Melanie on July 8, 2008 at 5:45pm: Thanks Eric. That is much better.
Of course Pickens sees that there is a HUGE opportunity to make millions off of selling us our own wind. Why else would he be spending his money of this campaign. The problem is, I don't think this is wrong. I think it is brilliant. I wish I had thought of it first.
I think the only idea you have left is that we drill for more oil at home??? I'm just guessing here. I think that is a great idea as well. That would certainly make you not a liberal :-); ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Eric on July 8, 2008 at 5:48pm: "I guess you're one of the ones who was polarized. I'd say this plan is fare better than either one of the candidates is offering AND definitely a little more to the left than the right."

It's not political? Watch the Pickens video again. The last thing he says is "we gotta support the right leaders". Now who do you suppose he's going to throw his weight behind in the Presidential election?

I'll bet you a million dollars this is all just a ponzi scheme to get support for McCain. In a week or two you're going to hear John McCain going "yep! yep! Pickens is right! And I pledge to make wind generators for everyone! There's going to be a wind generator in every yard and two natural gas burning cars in every garage ... if I'm elected PREZ!"; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Doug McLaud on July 8, 2008 at 5:49pm: I happen to be a very liberal democrat and it sure is time we get beyond the political crap. Barack is trying and its not easy but take a deep breath and try to see the politics of hope. Whatever his politics Pickens ideas have merit and deserve real consideration. We on the left can't actually say that we've done much more than talk a good game.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Jay Glickman on July 8, 2008 at 5:51pm: This isn't about politics. The fact that you dislike his past political contributions has absolutely zero to do with his expertise and "credibility" when it comes to this energy plan. You don't need to like his political affiliations, but you should not ignore the fact that this is a clear and practical energy initiative for America and repudiate it solely because of personal feelings.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by WILLIAM HEASLEY on July 8, 2008 at 5:53pm: Eric:

Moveon.org is a different web site. You are on the wrong web site Eric. This is your CLUE.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Linda MCCrary on July 8, 2008 at 5:54pm: I went to a Swift Boat rally in DC and met many who were there with Kerry. The one question I had for all of them, "Who was holding the camera when Kerry was being filmed in Nam, and why? Who opts for photos when soldiers were raping and pillaging the country like Gingis Khan? He was running for President or something way back then. I'm not proud of everything GW has done, but a opportunist like Kerry would have been disastrous.

T Boone Pickens's wind power and natural gas might not be the answer to our problems, but at least he's trying to do something. What's Congress doing?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Eric on July 8, 2008 at 5:54pm: I am hardly a liberal. I supported Ron Paul in the Primaries, and I will be voting for Bob Barr for President.

I am a Libertarian.; ▶ Reply to This