Global warming on other planets Mars, Jupiter, Triton, Neptune, Pluto, and others share the fate of Earth
Man Made Global Warming is a Hoax!
Jupiter
A new storm and a new red spot on Jupiter hints at climate change, USA TODAY and dozens of other sources explained yesterday. The temperatures are expected to change by as much as 10 Fahrenheit degrees at different places of the globe. At least close to the new spot and to the equator, nothing less than global warming is expected.
New observations of Jupiter's climate change were released in 2008
Neptune
The climate of Neptune - more precisely its reflectivity - was recently changing. Lockwood and Hammel argue in Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 34 (2007) that the trends on Neptune reveal suggestive correlations of brightness of Neptune with the temperature trends on Earth, indicating their common solar origin - although I am not quite sure whether the sign is as expected.
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Triton
Triton is Neptune's largest Moon. Some people believe that it used to be an asteroid. Global warming was detected on Triton. Between 1989 and 1998, the temperature jumped by 5 percent on the absolute (Kelvin) scale. The same relative increase would raise the Earth's temperature by 22 degrees Fahrenheit in 9 years. See thousands of other pages about the global warming on Triton.
Enceladus
Another moon of Saturn's, Enceladus, would be also expected to be frozen and cold. Suddenly, Cassini has informed us that Enceladus generates its own heat. Its high temperatures seem to be incompatible with calculations based on solar energy itself, according to existing models.
Saturn
Saturn itself has a rather warm southern pole, and the temperatures in that region suddenly jumped by 3-5 Kelvin degrees. Well, it's warm because it's been exposed to sunshine for quite some time but the magnitude of the temperature jumps is not trivial to calculate.
Pluto
What's going on with Pluto? Well, yes, your guess is right. There is global warming on Pluto. Pluto's atmospheric pressure has tripled in 14 years, and the associated increase of temperature is estimated to be around 3.5 Fahrenheit degrees, despite the motion of Pluto away from the Sun.
Mars
Of course, the global warming on Mars is a well-known story. Between 1975 and 2000, Mars warmed up by 0.65 Celsius degrees, much faster than Earth: see Nature 2007. The warming has been used by this blog to discover the Martians. More seriously, we have explained that the dramatic and speedy melting of the Martian icecaps is caused by the greenhouse effect. 95% of "their" atmosphere is made of carbon dioxide; that's slightly more than 0.038% of our atmosphere.
The warming trend on Mars is undeniable. Some people have tried to blame the global warming on NASA's rovers. Such accusations are pretty serious because NASA is already preparing plans to occupy Mars using the greenhouse effect.
Venus
This planet doesn't belong to this list of planets where recent warming has been demonstrated. But it is interesting to talk about the greenhouse effect there.
Venus, our planet's evil sister, has already been identified as unusable for life because of ... yes, because of the greenhouse effect that occured in the past. Last month, the Venus express gave us some new hints why Venus has such a thick atmosphere that generated global warming.
Venus' distance from the Sun is about 70% of the distance Sun-Earth. Because of the second power, this means that there is twice as much solar radiation per area over there. Because of the fourth power in the Stefan-Boltzmann law, it means that you expect about 20% higher temperatures in comparison with Earth on the Kelvin scale which would mean, if Venus were a black body, that the temperature would still be still below 100 Celsius. But they are about 470 Celsius on Venus.
Venus is clearly not a black body and the greenhouse effect is important for raising its temperature. But you should notice that Venus' atmosphere has 90 times higher pressure than the terrestrial atmosphere and 96% of it is carbon dioxide! The Earth only has 380 parts per million of CO2, and if you divided it by 90 to get the corresponding fraction of the Venus atmosphere, you get about 4 parts per million. There is more than 100,000 times less CO2 density here than on Venus! If you used a linear relationship between the CO2 concentration and temperature boost, you would see that the expected increase of the Earth temperature due to CO2 is 400 Celsius divided by more than 100,000 which is a few millikelvins - a totally negligible amount! The actual strength of the greenhouse effect on Earth will be stronger - because the first molecules matter more - but it won't be exceedingly stronger. At any rate, when numbers are taken into account, you shouldn't expect any substantial influence of CO2 on Earth.
But let us return to the planets that are known to be currently warming.
Earth
The Earth is currently experiencing warming, too, although a less dramatic one than the previous examples. However, there is apparently a huge difference. The warming on the previous planets and moons was natural. On the other hand, the warming on Earth couldn't evolve naturally: it is caused by the humankind, evil corporations, and their intelligent design, most left-wing scientists believe. The warming trends can't have anything to do with the Sun whose activity is now highest in the last 1000 years: it is unethical to propose that the Sun plays any role, consensus scientists argue.
Google Planets Warming for more information.
Jupiter
A new storm and a new red spot on Jupiter hints at climate change, USA TODAY and dozens of other sources explained yesterday. The temperatures are expected to change by as much as 10 Fahrenheit degrees at different places of the globe. At least close to the new spot and to the equator, nothing less than global warming is expected.
New observations of Jupiter's climate change were released in 2008
Neptune
The climate of Neptune - more precisely its reflectivity - was recently changing. Lockwood and Hammel argue in Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 34 (2007) that the trends on Neptune reveal suggestive correlations of brightness of Neptune with the temperature trends on Earth, indicating their common solar origin - although I am not quite sure whether the sign is as expected.
Buy Czech President Václav Klaus' amazing book, "Blue Planet in Green Shackles".
Triton
Triton is Neptune's largest Moon. Some people believe that it used to be an asteroid. Global warming was detected on Triton. Between 1989 and 1998, the temperature jumped by 5 percent on the absolute (Kelvin) scale. The same relative increase would raise the Earth's temperature by 22 degrees Fahrenheit in 9 years. See thousands of other pages about the global warming on Triton.
Enceladus
Another moon of Saturn's, Enceladus, would be also expected to be frozen and cold. Suddenly, Cassini has informed us that Enceladus generates its own heat. Its high temperatures seem to be incompatible with calculations based on solar energy itself, according to existing models.
Saturn
Saturn itself has a rather warm southern pole, and the temperatures in that region suddenly jumped by 3-5 Kelvin degrees. Well, it's warm because it's been exposed to sunshine for quite some time but the magnitude of the temperature jumps is not trivial to calculate.
Pluto
What's going on with Pluto? Well, yes, your guess is right. There is global warming on Pluto. Pluto's atmospheric pressure has tripled in 14 years, and the associated increase of temperature is estimated to be around 3.5 Fahrenheit degrees, despite the motion of Pluto away from the Sun.
Mars
Of course, the global warming on Mars is a well-known story. Between 1975 and 2000, Mars warmed up by 0.65 Celsius degrees, much faster than Earth: see Nature 2007. The warming has been used by this blog to discover the Martians. More seriously, we have explained that the dramatic and speedy melting of the Martian icecaps is caused by the greenhouse effect. 95% of "their" atmosphere is made of carbon dioxide; that's slightly more than 0.038% of our atmosphere.
The warming trend on Mars is undeniable. Some people have tried to blame the global warming on NASA's rovers. Such accusations are pretty serious because NASA is already preparing plans to occupy Mars using the greenhouse effect.
Venus
This planet doesn't belong to this list of planets where recent warming has been demonstrated. But it is interesting to talk about the greenhouse effect there.
Venus, our planet's evil sister, has already been identified as unusable for life because of ... yes, because of the greenhouse effect that occured in the past. Last month, the Venus express gave us some new hints why Venus has such a thick atmosphere that generated global warming.
Venus' distance from the Sun is about 70% of the distance Sun-Earth. Because of the second power, this means that there is twice as much solar radiation per area over there. Because of the fourth power in the Stefan-Boltzmann law, it means that you expect about 20% higher temperatures in comparison with Earth on the Kelvin scale which would mean, if Venus were a black body, that the temperature would still be still below 100 Celsius. But they are about 470 Celsius on Venus.
Venus is clearly not a black body and the greenhouse effect is important for raising its temperature. But you should notice that Venus' atmosphere has 90 times higher pressure than the terrestrial atmosphere and 96% of it is carbon dioxide! The Earth only has 380 parts per million of CO2, and if you divided it by 90 to get the corresponding fraction of the Venus atmosphere, you get about 4 parts per million. There is more than 100,000 times less CO2 density here than on Venus! If you used a linear relationship between the CO2 concentration and temperature boost, you would see that the expected increase of the Earth temperature due to CO2 is 400 Celsius divided by more than 100,000 which is a few millikelvins - a totally negligible amount! The actual strength of the greenhouse effect on Earth will be stronger - because the first molecules matter more - but it won't be exceedingly stronger. At any rate, when numbers are taken into account, you shouldn't expect any substantial influence of CO2 on Earth.
But let us return to the planets that are known to be currently warming.
Earth
The Earth is currently experiencing warming, too, although a less dramatic one than the previous examples. However, there is apparently a huge difference. The warming on the previous planets and moons was natural. On the other hand, the warming on Earth couldn't evolve naturally: it is caused by the humankind, evil corporations, and their intelligent design, most left-wing scientists believe. The warming trends can't have anything to do with the Sun whose activity is now highest in the last 1000 years: it is unethical to propose that the Sun plays any role, consensus scientists argue.
Google Planets Warming for more information.
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Permalink Reply by John C. Johnson on -
Right On. I agree totally. If you study the geologic past, the history of weather, ice cores, and much more science where you can find out the truth, you come to realize, if you are not a moron, that this is really a HOAX. There have been conferences recently where scientists who do not believe gathered, and said so. To bad the Al Goreians and the Obamamaniacs who support this crap have so much media coverage. It just goes on and on... we will commit obamacide if we are not careful.
JOHN
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Permalink Reply by hbhansen on -
John thanks for your input.
Spread the word and lets build this army.
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Permalink Reply by out-of-time on -
only the words (global warming) are man made to give scientist research money, they know it's something that couldnt ever be proved either way. the truth is about whats happening is the world is getting polluted with co2 which is man made, unless you want to tell me its a natural variability and the suns activity drives our cars, uses all our electricity while we are not looking.
doesnt matter how warm the globe is. it matters how polluted our world is and doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out the pollution is doing what some people claim is global warming but no matter what you call it the outcomes the same. oh btw we dont live on any of those planets we live on earth.
and i never seen the article about us sending thermometers to any of those planets.lol some people will beleive anything as long as they dont have to think.
i think i will continue to try in stop global warming aka POLLUTION because i have children with children who i would like to have a clean world or just a world to live in
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Permalink Reply by ART005 on -
Do you think the solar system is measured with thermometers!? Consider what actual qualifications you have and then think about how with those qualifications you could be conned by the likes of Gore and company....
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Permalink Reply by Danny Smith on -
Out of Time,
sayin co2 is pollution is totally unreal. CO2 is very much a part of our ecology. Every green plant uses CO2 for photosynthesis. No CO2 no plants. Are we releasing more CO@ than the plants can handle now? Maybe. But isn't the real answer to plant more plants? The turn CO2 into oxygen and the carbon become part of the plant. So please CO2 is NOT pollution. We just are not using it right.
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Permalink Reply by Michelle on -
Yes, it is pollution.
Co2, from the late Permian era (the largest extinction level event ever, killing 95 percent of all life) has been neatly stored in the ground in coal and oil. Here we are digging it up and releasing it again into the air. Where does all of the excess go? The plants won't consume it all. Let me share a brief history of Co2...
250 million years ago, after most life had become extinct, the little plankton in the seas consumed the Co2. When they died they dropped to the bottom of the ocean. Since there were no bacteria or other life to consume them and release the Co2, the poisonous gas was trapped in their tiny little bodies. They piled up for millenia, were eventually covered by mud, and were secured in the ground. To make a long story short, this is where the oil and coal came from. Plankton can't do that yet, because there's lots of bacteria that eat them up and release the Co2.
The oceans will soak up some of the Co2, but we are near the tipping point for which they can store no more. From there, the Co2 will remain in the atmosphere and we will be breathing it. Plants and trees are already at full capacity for converting Co2 (and that is being reduced every year as we level the Amazon forests and others) At some point (some estimate that it is two to four times what we have now), there will be so much poison in the air that it will create another extinction level event. Plankton may survive that, but people will not.
That is what we are faced with as we continue to consume fossil fuels. We could poison our atmosphere. I'm not afraid of global warming so much, but I really do worry about having air to breathe.
What we need to do if we continue to use fossil fuels is find a way to scoop Co2 out of the atmosphere, put it into bricks of some kind, and then bury it where it was before we dug it up. Sounds easy, no?
Right.
Michelle
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Permalink Reply by Greg Hall on -
Your right on. The attempt at nay saying global warming is an overt attempt by special interests in the energy industry to delay moving on to other technologies. The facts your've stated above are accurate and reflect a common sense approach to global warming. I see things in a very similar to the way you see it. Regardless of whether you believe in manmade global warming or not, it is obvious to the most casual observer that something is changing. I worry about the air I breathe and the changes to the environment. One example of those changes is the banding of plant types which can grow in various climates in the US is rapidly changing. I live in north Texas, according to our gardening experts here the bands are shifting northward. That is plants that could only thrive in north Texas are now being grown in Oklahoma and Kansas. The reverse is also true now they can't grow some plants that used to grow at their latitude. That means food crop patterns are changing. We can sit on our hands and play like nothing happening (whether man made or natural) or we can start adapting to a new world that reflects the changes that are being made. As I said in another post with apologies to Everitt Dirksen, a little wind, a little solar, a little bio-mass and pretty soon you don't need foreign oil, nuclear waste, and air pollution. You might not even have global warming whatever its sources are.
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Permalink Reply by tass on -
Huh, you must be less than 30 years old. That means you don't remember "the new ice age"......
You people actually make me nervous. You believe in Biorythm.... but something actually OBSERVABLE like axis tilt, galactic position or sunspots are "an overt attempt by special interests in the energy industry".....
geez
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Permalink Reply by hbhansen on
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Bingo...the media looking for a good story!
Not looking for good science.
The media bias is huge...100:1 for democrates!
Its not 100:1 for science.
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Permalink Reply by Michelle on
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Uh Tass,
I'm a professional who works as an astronomer. I believe in axis tilt and sunspots. Certainly, these can contribute to global climate change.
While I don't believe in the way that people use biorythms, they do exist. The fertility cycle of women is a good example.
The bottom line is this. It doesn't matter which source comes out as number one in the climate change argument. We are a part of it. We can lessen our contribution a little bit or to a great extent.
If you are walking the plank to death, every step will be shorter... every inch is important...... or perhaps millions of us will skip gleefully to their own extinction.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we either start pulling together to increase our nations energy independence or we don't. Are you willing to climb on board with that effort? I am.
Michelle
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Permalink Reply by tass on
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I spent 10 years in the oilfield (diggin rigs.... workover and rod rigs).... I'm willing to go back if they need more hands.
You know..... I just went back to a cogitation I had years ago.... Less people, less usage...
We need a BIG war..... or pandemic. That would solve all these problems.
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Permalink Reply by Henry on -
You are just the person I want to pose this question to. As you know, the earth has a wobble. Every 26000 years the earth has one complete wobble. In this time there are as many as three mini wobbles. Mind you, this is over 26000 years.
What effect on the earth do these wobbles have?
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