Global warming on other planets Mars, Jupiter, Triton, Neptune, Pluto, and others share the fate of Earth
Man Made Global Warming is a Hoax!
Jupiter
A new storm and a new red spot on Jupiter hints at climate change, USA TODAY and dozens of other sources explained yesterday. The temperatures are expected to change by as much as 10 Fahrenheit degrees at different places of the globe. At least close to the new spot and to the equator, nothing less than global warming is expected.
New observations of Jupiter's climate change were released in 2008
Neptune
The climate of Neptune - more precisely its reflectivity - was recently changing. Lockwood and Hammel argue in Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 34 (2007) that the trends on Neptune reveal suggestive correlations of brightness of Neptune with the temperature trends on Earth, indicating their common solar origin - although I am not quite sure whether the sign is as expected.
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Triton
Triton is Neptune's largest Moon. Some people believe that it used to be an asteroid. Global warming was detected on Triton. Between 1989 and 1998, the temperature jumped by 5 percent on the absolute (Kelvin) scale. The same relative increase would raise the Earth's temperature by 22 degrees Fahrenheit in 9 years. See thousands of other pages about the global warming on Triton.
Enceladus
Another moon of Saturn's, Enceladus, would be also expected to be frozen and cold. Suddenly, Cassini has informed us that Enceladus generates its own heat. Its high temperatures seem to be incompatible with calculations based on solar energy itself, according to existing models.
Saturn
Saturn itself has a rather warm southern pole, and the temperatures in that region suddenly jumped by 3-5 Kelvin degrees. Well, it's warm because it's been exposed to sunshine for quite some time but the magnitude of the temperature jumps is not trivial to calculate.
Pluto
What's going on with Pluto? Well, yes, your guess is right. There is global warming on Pluto. Pluto's atmospheric pressure has tripled in 14 years, and the associated increase of temperature is estimated to be around 3.5 Fahrenheit degrees, despite the motion of Pluto away from the Sun.
Mars
Of course, the global warming on Mars is a well-known story. Between 1975 and 2000, Mars warmed up by 0.65 Celsius degrees, much faster than Earth: see Nature 2007. The warming has been used by this blog to discover the Martians. More seriously, we have explained that the dramatic and speedy melting of the Martian icecaps is caused by the greenhouse effect. 95% of "their" atmosphere is made of carbon dioxide; that's slightly more than 0.038% of our atmosphere.
The warming trend on Mars is undeniable. Some people have tried to blame the global warming on NASA's rovers. Such accusations are pretty serious because NASA is already preparing plans to occupy Mars using the greenhouse effect.
Venus
This planet doesn't belong to this list of planets where recent warming has been demonstrated. But it is interesting to talk about the greenhouse effect there.
Venus, our planet's evil sister, has already been identified as unusable for life because of ... yes, because of the greenhouse effect that occured in the past. Last month, the Venus express gave us some new hints why Venus has such a thick atmosphere that generated global warming.
Venus' distance from the Sun is about 70% of the distance Sun-Earth. Because of the second power, this means that there is twice as much solar radiation per area over there. Because of the fourth power in the Stefan-Boltzmann law, it means that you expect about 20% higher temperatures in comparison with Earth on the Kelvin scale which would mean, if Venus were a black body, that the temperature would still be still below 100 Celsius. But they are about 470 Celsius on Venus.
Venus is clearly not a black body and the greenhouse effect is important for raising its temperature. But you should notice that Venus' atmosphere has 90 times higher pressure than the terrestrial atmosphere and 96% of it is carbon dioxide! The Earth only has 380 parts per million of CO2, and if you divided it by 90 to get the corresponding fraction of the Venus atmosphere, you get about 4 parts per million. There is more than 100,000 times less CO2 density here than on Venus! If you used a linear relationship between the CO2 concentration and temperature boost, you would see that the expected increase of the Earth temperature due to CO2 is 400 Celsius divided by more than 100,000 which is a few millikelvins - a totally negligible amount! The actual strength of the greenhouse effect on Earth will be stronger - because the first molecules matter more - but it won't be exceedingly stronger. At any rate, when numbers are taken into account, you shouldn't expect any substantial influence of CO2 on Earth.
But let us return to the planets that are known to be currently warming.
Earth
The Earth is currently experiencing warming, too, although a less dramatic one than the previous examples. However, there is apparently a huge difference. The warming on the previous planets and moons was natural. On the other hand, the warming on Earth couldn't evolve naturally: it is caused by the humankind, evil corporations, and their intelligent design, most left-wing scientists believe. The warming trends can't have anything to do with the Sun whose activity is now highest in the last 1000 years: it is unethical to propose that the Sun plays any role, consensus scientists argue.
Google Planets Warming for more information.
Jupiter
A new storm and a new red spot on Jupiter hints at climate change, USA TODAY and dozens of other sources explained yesterday. The temperatures are expected to change by as much as 10 Fahrenheit degrees at different places of the globe. At least close to the new spot and to the equator, nothing less than global warming is expected.
New observations of Jupiter's climate change were released in 2008
Neptune
The climate of Neptune - more precisely its reflectivity - was recently changing. Lockwood and Hammel argue in Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 34 (2007) that the trends on Neptune reveal suggestive correlations of brightness of Neptune with the temperature trends on Earth, indicating their common solar origin - although I am not quite sure whether the sign is as expected.
Buy Czech President Václav Klaus' amazing book, "Blue Planet in Green Shackles".
Triton
Triton is Neptune's largest Moon. Some people believe that it used to be an asteroid. Global warming was detected on Triton. Between 1989 and 1998, the temperature jumped by 5 percent on the absolute (Kelvin) scale. The same relative increase would raise the Earth's temperature by 22 degrees Fahrenheit in 9 years. See thousands of other pages about the global warming on Triton.
Enceladus
Another moon of Saturn's, Enceladus, would be also expected to be frozen and cold. Suddenly, Cassini has informed us that Enceladus generates its own heat. Its high temperatures seem to be incompatible with calculations based on solar energy itself, according to existing models.
Saturn
Saturn itself has a rather warm southern pole, and the temperatures in that region suddenly jumped by 3-5 Kelvin degrees. Well, it's warm because it's been exposed to sunshine for quite some time but the magnitude of the temperature jumps is not trivial to calculate.
Pluto
What's going on with Pluto? Well, yes, your guess is right. There is global warming on Pluto. Pluto's atmospheric pressure has tripled in 14 years, and the associated increase of temperature is estimated to be around 3.5 Fahrenheit degrees, despite the motion of Pluto away from the Sun.
Mars
Of course, the global warming on Mars is a well-known story. Between 1975 and 2000, Mars warmed up by 0.65 Celsius degrees, much faster than Earth: see Nature 2007. The warming has been used by this blog to discover the Martians. More seriously, we have explained that the dramatic and speedy melting of the Martian icecaps is caused by the greenhouse effect. 95% of "their" atmosphere is made of carbon dioxide; that's slightly more than 0.038% of our atmosphere.
The warming trend on Mars is undeniable. Some people have tried to blame the global warming on NASA's rovers. Such accusations are pretty serious because NASA is already preparing plans to occupy Mars using the greenhouse effect.
Venus
This planet doesn't belong to this list of planets where recent warming has been demonstrated. But it is interesting to talk about the greenhouse effect there.
Venus, our planet's evil sister, has already been identified as unusable for life because of ... yes, because of the greenhouse effect that occured in the past. Last month, the Venus express gave us some new hints why Venus has such a thick atmosphere that generated global warming.
Venus' distance from the Sun is about 70% of the distance Sun-Earth. Because of the second power, this means that there is twice as much solar radiation per area over there. Because of the fourth power in the Stefan-Boltzmann law, it means that you expect about 20% higher temperatures in comparison with Earth on the Kelvin scale which would mean, if Venus were a black body, that the temperature would still be still below 100 Celsius. But they are about 470 Celsius on Venus.
Venus is clearly not a black body and the greenhouse effect is important for raising its temperature. But you should notice that Venus' atmosphere has 90 times higher pressure than the terrestrial atmosphere and 96% of it is carbon dioxide! The Earth only has 380 parts per million of CO2, and if you divided it by 90 to get the corresponding fraction of the Venus atmosphere, you get about 4 parts per million. There is more than 100,000 times less CO2 density here than on Venus! If you used a linear relationship between the CO2 concentration and temperature boost, you would see that the expected increase of the Earth temperature due to CO2 is 400 Celsius divided by more than 100,000 which is a few millikelvins - a totally negligible amount! The actual strength of the greenhouse effect on Earth will be stronger - because the first molecules matter more - but it won't be exceedingly stronger. At any rate, when numbers are taken into account, you shouldn't expect any substantial influence of CO2 on Earth.
But let us return to the planets that are known to be currently warming.
Earth
The Earth is currently experiencing warming, too, although a less dramatic one than the previous examples. However, there is apparently a huge difference. The warming on the previous planets and moons was natural. On the other hand, the warming on Earth couldn't evolve naturally: it is caused by the humankind, evil corporations, and their intelligent design, most left-wing scientists believe. The warming trends can't have anything to do with the Sun whose activity is now highest in the last 1000 years: it is unethical to propose that the Sun plays any role, consensus scientists argue.
Google Planets Warming for more information.
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Permalink Reply by Warner on -
Headline: Scientists discover global warming on the Sun
Dire consequences if it is not curtailed
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Permalink Reply by Alex van der Beek on -
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Human intervention and exploitation in the ecosystem will produce changes in order to meet the desired objectives. According to the Millennium Ecosystems Assessment, in many parts of the world the consumption of ecosystems services are managed in an unsustainable way. Therefore it is strongly necessary to find direct drivers of ecosystem management that can provide more effective cost-benefit opportunities for multipurpose systems, which can meet multiple goals, including the pervasive environmental, social, and economic objectives of sustainable development.
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Permalink Reply by Thomas on -
Pork is a four letter word. I urge you NOT to vote for f.y.2009. Reason, the bill is loaded with 1480 earmarks worth 3.5 $billion that do nothing to fix America's dependency on foreign oil imports.
America is taking some Big Economic Hits. It's just plain STUPID to keep spending $700 Billion a year for Oil when actually America has more Oil than OPEC. We need to starting drilling now and increase our efforts to develop Oil Sands and Green energy.
Why don't you start an investigation on (1) Trillions missing from DoD (2) Billions missing from HUD!? (source www.whereisthemoney.org)
We are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. No earmarks on f.y.2009 Energy Independence Bill.
Regards,
Thomas Moore
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CNN is running a great TV program this week at 1900 E.T. "THE INDEPENDENTS CONVENTION". Tons of shocking facts concerning Senate and Congress corruption. The f.y.2009 Energy Independence Bill is loaded with pork worth $3.5 Billion that does nothing to fix America's problems. Who do you think benefits? Check it out!
Thomas Moore
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Permalink Reply by James Tracy on -
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Permalink Reply by Carl Gottstein on -
Is anybody with any brain's really at all shocked to understand that SOL controls our temp? Cmon this takes about a nano second of human thought to comprehend, look up. feel the heat? lol it's almost not worth commenting on if not for all the sucker's falling for the latest line of political bogus spewing from the propaganda centers of the socialist ultra-left"consensus scientists ".....lol
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Permalink Reply by Morisse Linda on -
There's no scientific evidence that human beings' output of co2 is responsible for "global warming". As you correctly pointed out, other planets, such as Mars, are also warming slightly. This has more to do with the activity of the Sun -- solar flares, and the solar wind -- than any of the activities of man. FYI, the biggest output of co2 comes from the oceans, and second, from volcanoes.
The weather and seasons are determined by very large astronomical cycles. The weather is a dynamic system, and there have been dramatic changes going on for eons.
And, by the way, trees and other plants LOVE co2, and in turn, release oxygen into the atmosphere!
http://www.globalwarmingsurvivalcenter.com/
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Permalink Reply by neil cox on -
Hi Morisse: Possibly there is no good scientific evidence. Oceans are likely the largest source of Carbon dioxide, but volcanoes are more likely about tenth on the list after, forest fires, thawing tundra and swamps.
Even if human carbon dioxide is unimportant, we still need to get off foreign oil. 2011 may be too late. We are practicing serious brinkmanship. Neil
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This thread seems to be mostly against the idea that people cause global warming, but mostly is guilty of the same kind of weak conclusions of Al Gore and other advocates. The truth is somewhere in between. Likely humans cause a very small portion of the global warming and net warming has fallen to zero or less in the past ten years.
The spin starts in the title = share the fate. The warming is slight. The observed changes may have other causes.
Evil corporation is as much spin as evil climate scientists. Of course some are evil, but modern civilization is highly dependent on corporations. Government has never filled this role even poorly, except with massive loss of human rights and self determination. There is no good reason to think the USA government will successfully replace corporations. Previous attempts have been a disaster with rare exceptions.
Everything is wrong in the concluding paragraph titled Earth, except possibly " most left-wing scientists believe" Neil
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Permalink Reply by Morisse Linda on
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The Whole Solar System is Undergoing Global Warming.
This is a fact that not many people know about, and quite a few people, would like that there was no evidence to back this fact, because some people would like the world to believe that human activity is the cause for global warming on Earth. I am not advocating that releasing harmful gases, and chemicals in the oceans and atmosphere are good, but after a few years of research, I have come to understand that global warming is happening in the Solar System, not just on Earth.
Some people just want to listen to what some environmentalists are claiming, that global warming is happening because of human activity, and we are the cause for the extreme changes in climate we have been seeing lately getting worse and worse.
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Permalink Reply by neil cox on
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I have not seen any recent comments about solar system warming, so perhaps it has stopped since about 2000 when most Earth locations stopped getting warmer. Exception occur in the Arctic if you can believe what we are told = perhaps not wise to believe. We have not observed any extreme changes in the 35 years we have lived in Jacksonville, Florida. Neil
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