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use water as fuel does it work??

let start talking about this if it works why dont we have it on all cars ??has anyone seen this i think it works but i dont have proof positive does anyone ??

Tags: fuel, gasoline, hydrogen, mpg., save, water

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Permalink Reply by Jeff Smoley on August 14, 2008 at 5:19am
On this we agree 100%
Permalink Reply by H-Tom on August 14, 2008 at 10:35am
You have Absolutly no Idea, Please do some research
Permalink Reply by DubleDeuce on August 2, 2008 at 2:52am
His hydrogen equation is kinda like getting a wedgy at the prom. It happens, but in the grand scheme of things, it won't increase your luck at the end of the day.
Permalink Reply by Jeff Smoley on September 21, 2008 at 10:11am
You have a math deficiency. You are taking H2O and creating H2 and O (or more accurately 2 H2s and 1 O2 from 2 H2Os). When you burn this there is no extra O2 to react with the gasoline fuel. There is a bit less O2 from the atmosphere, since you have replaced it with some of the Brown's gas (2 H2 molecules and 1 O2 molecule). Having Brown's gas "in between" complex hydrocarbon molecules does not ignite them. If it did, the engine would be pre-igniting as soon at the Brown's gas came in contact with the gasoline vapor (in the engine, before the compression).
Permalink Reply by Terrence Abrams on October 7, 2008 at 8:04am
You're absolutely correct Tomo.
Permalink Reply by mike on July 24, 2008 at 9:53am
Hydrogen energy is great but it takes energy in some form to produce free hydrogen
Permalink Reply by tomo on July 24, 2008 at 10:12am
What about solar to produce the needed energy? I am not talking in terms of mass produce.More in the line of per person production.For their own auto, To produce enough "fuel" to run their auto for a day/wk/mo. in their own garage lets say. Can that be done?......T
Permalink Reply by Bob Wegrzen on July 27, 2008 at 5:22pm
Permalink Reply by Jeff Smoley on July 27, 2008 at 8:07pm
Why bother wasting the solar power to convert Nat. Gas to hydrogen. Why not just make a nat. gas vehicle? In a house like this you could already have a NG stove, oven, water heater and dryer. So, you would dump these and buy all new hydrogen units?
Permalink Reply by KENN DRESCHER on July 29, 2008 at 2:31pm
The HOH generators work at = 20 amps +/- 3 amps. Over 26 amps, and the Units will overheat...

The solution to the extra amps drawn can be solved by outfiting the vehicle with a Solar Generator; of RV, or a Marine application:

A dual purpose Marine/RV Battery, a Solar Pannel, I recommend at least 15 Watts, which constantly charges the battery in Sunlight, even on cloudy days (Called a Battery Maintainer w/electronics to prevent overcharge + optimization.). You may also complete the Solar Generator by using a Power Inverter for other AC Units.

PS: We've been experimenting with a Unit bought on E-Bay, which we've rebuilt and installed in an old Ford Explorer. W/O a tune-up, the Unit of Average size is giving aprox. a 4 m.p.g. boost. Seems to get better with more use. Just installed it last month. Vehicle runs smoother, and the tail pipe, which was a greezy black, is now becomming cleaner. The problem is with the O2 Sensor. The HOH leans out the mixture, so the FI Computer inject a richer mixture, thereby reducing gains, and benefits. This vehicle has standard battery; no Solar Generator.

PPS: We're using: Red Devil Lye as the Electrolite!

MORE INFO ON LINKS PG
Permalink Reply by mike on July 31, 2008 at 9:30am
if you didn't monkey with your O2 sensor then the improvement you are seeing is coming from you "knowing" the unit is there ie: you are driving more contentiously. If you DID play with the O2 sensor as most manufacturers of those devices advocate you engine is running leaner and using less case.
Permalink Reply by Jeff Smoley on August 2, 2008 at 7:05am
Look, you can't get more energy out of a system that you put in, you can't even break even due to heat and friction losses.
Why not put a fan connected to a generator (OR ALTERNATOR) on the roof of your car to create the electricity needed to create the HHO gas? The faster you go, the more HHO you get right? If you are driving into a wind, you get even more!!!
Salvage the blades from a house fan, get an alternator, regulator and battery and hook it up to your HHO maker. Now you don't even need the power of the engine.







My tongue is firmly placed in my cheek for the rest of you engineers and scientists who know why this doesn't work (unless you have a stiff wind when standing still, in the right direction).

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