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I am concern about our Environment, and I understand our Feather Friends ( Birds ) could be in danger with Wind Farms.
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Permalink Reply by Shannon Lacey on -
(Bird Radar)
LOOOOK OOUT!!!!
OMG!!! HE'S GONNA CRAAAAASH!!!!
EEEEEEEEEKKKKKKK!!!!!
AAAFFLLAAAAAK!!!!
AAHHHHHH!!!! I'M GONNA DIE!!!! AAHHHHHH!!!
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Permalink Reply by Shannon Lacey on
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Yes, I know this is twisted. :) hehehe
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Permalink Reply by DubleDeuce on -
Please don't show Photoshoped pictures to make your point, funny or not. Some people really will believe that wind farms cause significant bird deaths. THEY do not.
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Permalink Reply by Shannon Lacey on
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Yeeahh, and who are you to tell me not to? This is comedy dude... lighten up.
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Permalink Reply by Shannon Lacey on
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But I do agree with you, DubleDeuce, on the point that people shouldn't belive that crap. It's like birds that fly into windows and buildings... what are we supposed to do... not build??? But my photos and and attempt at humor points out how ridiculous the whole thing is. If people really believe that, I don't know what could be done to help them, and I'm not going to change the way I do things or my lightheartedness to suit them.
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Permalink Reply by Robert m wojciechowski sr on -
Shannon Lacey, I think your humor in this case, is use in poor taste, I for one did not appreciate it. This is a serious matter for those of us that enjoy our feather friends and at the same time know we must do something to get our Country off of oil and stop supporting Rogue Nations with billions of our dollars each year. Now is the Time to do that.
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Permalink Reply by Marie Price on -
If you were a bird, do you think you would go anywhere near a big whirling fan? There is always someone who does not think in realistic terms.........
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Permalink Reply by David Grimm on -
no offense, but who cares about the birds...they'll figure it out eventually. I don't feel like paying $8.00 a gallon for gas in the future to save a few dumb sparrows or finches.
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Permalink Reply by Dale Nelson on -
The Danes produce about 40% of all windpower equiptment in the world. There association has information on birds and windmills:
http://www.windpower.org/en/tour/env/birds.htm
They even report on a scientific study on the subject:
http://www.windpower.org/en/tour/env/birdsoff.htm
Conclusion:
'Controlled experiments stopping the wind turbines for a certain period has been performed. In another experiment decoys was used to attract the eiders, which are very social birds.
The result of the experiment using groups of decoys at different distances from the wind farm showed that the eiders were reluctant to pass at distances of 100 m or closer to the turbines.
The on/off experiment showed that there was no detectable effect of revolving rotors on the abundance of eiders in the area. In fact the eiders - like people - apparently prefer rotating turbines (but that result was clearly insignificant).
The overall conclusion of the final two experiments were that on one hand the eiders do keep a safe distance to the turbines, but on the other hand they do not get scared away from their foraging areas by revolving rotors. Also, the eiders showed normal landing behaviour until 100 m from the turbines. '
Would like to suggest that one sentance discussions be banned. It would be more helpful to have a few paragraphs with links to supporting data. In place of these windmills cause acne type things.
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Permalink Reply by Shannon Lacey on
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Yeah, I agree. Kind of like birds flying into windows and buildings. Who the heck can prevent that? What are we supposed to do not have buildings to?
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Permalink Reply by DubleDeuce on
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Another "Old Wives Tale" run amock. In the old days of windfarms, the towers were made of the structure we are familiar with today as cell phone and TV and radio transmission towers. They are merely a grid structure of interconnecting bars or tubing. This gave rise to prime nesting spaces for Da Boieds. All snug and comfy in their new nesting spot, one day papa bird (at least this is way I was told the story)decided to take the family out on a picnic and not being up to snuff on the new condo rules for leaving the property through the back entrance, collided with the rotating blades and "voila" pureed bird meat mixed with feathers.
The newer tower designs are much more robust and are of a solid tube design denying access to the nesting fowl and as they say, No Fowl-No Harm.
Any bird not able to SEE the large rotating blade and pick up on the swooshing sound it make when in the vicinity of the towers does NOT deserve to be in the gene pool anyway.
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Permalink Reply by Tim on -
Not sure how the process will work in the US but in Wales....
Part of the Ecology Section that should be carried out within the Environmental Impact Assesment prior to any planning application for a wind farm should cover ornothology. Following consultation with statuatory consultee's Countryside Council for Wales, Environment Agency & Royal Society for the Protection of Birds methodology is agreed for assessing the area for Birds, mammals & invertebrates.
In the UK, developers should have and submit a good record of at least 2 years bird data for the area of interest which includes the identification of any migrant species (the ones that mostly get chopped when they transect through wind farms at blade height), which may travel through the area.
This is how it works in the UK anyway and is a fraction of the completed EIA document, which also covers landscape & visuals, archaeology, noise, toursim, it gives decision makers confidence that 'significant' levels of collision & other detrimental effects to ornothology will be avoided and mitigates further risks in the other sections mentioned above.
hope this helps,
Tim
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