There are easier ways to establish energy independence. Cheaper too!
REALLY want energy independance, more American jobs, better innovation, and more fuel diversity?
There are easier, cheaper legislations that will allow Americans to solve our own problems WITHOUT a trillion dollar price tag.
Get your Washington politicians to:
RELEASE THE PATENTS on all engine, alternative energy, and renewable fuel technologies. It's simple. It's cheap. It's effective. Here's why:
While a FEW companies would obviously loose money because thier 'intellectual property' is shifted into the realm of 'public domain', this would allow EVERY Tom (Edison), D*** (Kozinski), and Harry (Ferguson) to tinker in thier garages and Americans could literally solve our own problems.
No more of GM buying out effective hydro-fuel cars just to lock it away in thier vault without ever putting it into production.
No more "I'm gonna sue you cause you improved on my product".
It's become a radical idea because the people ACTUALLY BUILDING a superior product in a competetive market would get the capitol gains, rather than the guy who simply "Owns the idea" - but isn't that what capitolism was supposed to be about in the first place? Equal oppertunity, pride in craftmenship, all that jazz?
This is not the ONLY option by any means, but if there are any private citizens like Pickens claims to be, who just want to solve our energy issues - Why not bank roll a plan like THAT?
Mind you, what I've done here is simply throw out an idea, which is a far cry different from having a articulate plan - but then, I'm not a bajillionaire volenteering to bankroll a campain in Washington either.
But look at all the people who jumped on board Picken's plan without knowing HOW the land will be obtained, WHERE the Trillion+ $$$'s are coming from, or WHAT the legislation will look like. Do you realise that RIGHT HERE ON THIS SITE there are enough people to put a simpler, cheaper solution like this one into Congress for consideration?
Hey, I'm just thinking out loud here. I KNOW there are smarter, more seasoned professionals here than me. So go ahead and reply. Tell me what you think.
There are easier, cheaper legislations that will allow Americans to solve our own problems WITHOUT a trillion dollar price tag.
Get your Washington politicians to:
RELEASE THE PATENTS on all engine, alternative energy, and renewable fuel technologies. It's simple. It's cheap. It's effective. Here's why:
While a FEW companies would obviously loose money because thier 'intellectual property' is shifted into the realm of 'public domain', this would allow EVERY Tom (Edison), D*** (Kozinski), and Harry (Ferguson) to tinker in thier garages and Americans could literally solve our own problems.
No more of GM buying out effective hydro-fuel cars just to lock it away in thier vault without ever putting it into production.
No more "I'm gonna sue you cause you improved on my product".
It's become a radical idea because the people ACTUALLY BUILDING a superior product in a competetive market would get the capitol gains, rather than the guy who simply "Owns the idea" - but isn't that what capitolism was supposed to be about in the first place? Equal oppertunity, pride in craftmenship, all that jazz?
This is not the ONLY option by any means, but if there are any private citizens like Pickens claims to be, who just want to solve our energy issues - Why not bank roll a plan like THAT?
Mind you, what I've done here is simply throw out an idea, which is a far cry different from having a articulate plan - but then, I'm not a bajillionaire volenteering to bankroll a campain in Washington either.
But look at all the people who jumped on board Picken's plan without knowing HOW the land will be obtained, WHERE the Trillion+ $$$'s are coming from, or WHAT the legislation will look like. Do you realise that RIGHT HERE ON THIS SITE there are enough people to put a simpler, cheaper solution like this one into Congress for consideration?
Hey, I'm just thinking out loud here. I KNOW there are smarter, more seasoned professionals here than me. So go ahead and reply. Tell me what you think.
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Permalink Reply by Dale Nelson on -
Adam Smith, the father of Capitalism, believed that patents were an anti-capitalist grant of privilege. Thanks for making a really good point.
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Permalink Reply by David Perkins on -
Why would any Car Manufacture put energy savings patent on the shelf? Last I heard they are losing billions as it is right now. So anything they could use to help sell their cars they would don't you think?
From what I hear, right now emission laws reduce mileage, that is the big dilemma, make a car go farther is hindered by emission control.
For your patent plan,
What is out there that can save energy that is put on the shelf?
How do we find out?
Do these patents fall under the emission control laws also?
Its like saying
Do UFO's exist? An astronaut believes there is a cover up.
If they do why is there a cover up?
What energy savings propulsion do they use?
Right now to me, all the energy savings patents that are stored in a vault is a myth.
If a patent was bought out by Big Oil or someone else then we would need the original inventor to step forward.
So far I haven't read anyone that says they sold a patent that could make a real difference.
Now if inverters step forward this could make the Department of Energy to look into the patent in question.
With out this we are stuck.
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Permalink Reply by DJ on -
Why someone else would do anything is somthing you'd have to ask them.
GM is natorious for this however, and while I've personally seen Hydro cars performing in Tampa that could have been thrown into mass production over a course of two years, -GM bought it up claiming it was to prevent legal disputes over a simular component on their OWN car (Which was apparently still a decade away based on when they actually RELEASED thier firsr version of the car, for thousands more than this guy's estimated price) the dude got a ton of money and an article in Popular Mechanics, and his disign was never to be seen again.
I'm only 30 and I've seen this happen a couple times, yet only NOW after public outcries, are the cars hitting the market.
My Grandfather, (Who's first car was a model T Ford) claimed that GM has a car design in the vault that gets HUNDREDS of miles to the gallon, because it is a small desil engine, that runs four electrical moters, which in turn motivate the vehicle. Now the design was far too large for public streets, but if it were tinkered with by TODAYS engineering students - Just imagine!
As for What patents are out there that can save us such energy - Well, er- potentially ALL of em. You CAN'T use them right now, because that would be illegal. But if we release the patents - You could do whatever you wanted. As for emmission laws - Here in Florida, they already did away with those, claiming that todays fuels burn cleaner so they arn't needed any more. - So I don't know how that would effect you.
Then there was your UFO question. ...sorry. Not my area of expertise.
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Permalink Reply by SJC on -
I do not think that the world is saved by people that tinker in their garages. That is an American myth that went out decades ago. It is the huge funding of organizations that puts things over the top these days. That is the problem. I would agree that there is some patent abuse, the the scarcity of capital is the big issue. 1 in 1000 business plans should be so lucky as to receive any consideration from venture capitalists and they are playing with pension fund money. If we want results, we will dramatically increase the availability of funds to start new companies. It would be great for the economy as well.
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Permalink Reply by DJ on
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Despite my complaining, I'm not really against patents. Personally - I think they have thier place, as do stalking laws. Still, I'd hate to see Romeo arrested for peeping tomming on Juliet. Get what I mean?
You're not wrong either. Tesla tinkered, and made superior technology to Edison, but who gets the glory in our history books? The guy who knew the in's and outs of legislation. Edison wasn't first on alot of his inventions either, but he was first in the patent office - None the less, I DO know a few peoplin inventing from thier garage, and while none of them can say they've saved the world yet - The fact that such men are uncommon doesn't make them a myth.
It's sad how few of the glorious ideas once held to are now abandoned just because it came out that our hero's were not infallible. But I wan't to take that glory back.
FREEEEEEEDOM!
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Permalink Reply by Phil McQuillan on -
Hello readers,
The Pickens Plan website would be a lot more productive if more people used the discussion Push The Plan: Cut & Paste Ideas (or something similar put up by National headquarters) where they should be able to find a selection of Sample letters to Congressmen, sample personal Invites, etc. That is IF they could locate it among the 2,700+ different Discussions floating around out there!
Active members have to be encouraged to post their Sample letters somewhere so that others have easy and user friendly access to them. Could I get some of you to post your letters on the Push The Plan: Cut & Paste Ideas discussion area? So far it is only lonely me and one other contributor's letter. We need a MUCH larger selection of ideas to choose from. Please CONTRIBUTE something and I will make sure it is included in the list where it will stay always in the top section. In other words, Reply to the Discussion titled Push The Plan: Cut & Paste Ideas and I'll paste your sample letter in near the top where it will remain. Your cooperation will benefit everybody. Thank you, Phil
p.s. Does anyone know of an easy way to provide a link to a particular Discussion?
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Permalink Reply by DJ on
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Um, the PURPOSE of these forums is discussion, and everyone has thier own concerns, so I can't back you on that one. I appreciate your point, I really do, But I for one have un-addressed concerns about Pickensplan and these have been helpfull in gauging other peoples thoughts and gaining insight.
As for how to provide a link - Cut paste the address in your browser (I'm just assuming you have some sort of browzer) to the place you wish to provide the link. That's the all purpose way around whatever may be preventing you from transferring existing links or creating them via code. ...at least, it works for me.
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Permalink Reply by Thomas Ketchum on -
AN OPEN LETTER TO MR. T. BOONE PICKENS.
We have joined your effort to reduce U.S. dependency on imported oil and gas and, in that connection, are presenting you with a method for increasing the efficiency of present natural gas usage, as it relates to fertilizer production in the United States.
Our plan is proven to increase nitrogen delivery efficiency by more than 40%, compared to currently-used methods of creating dry chemical fertilizers and dumping them on the ground.
What we are offering you is a simultaneous solution to (1) Homeland Security, (2) Agriculture, (3) Environmental concerns, and (4) Economic Stimulus and Development concerns, which are of increasing interest to all Americans.
What we have to offer is a 100% environmentally “green” liquid fertilizer manufacturing installation and processes, along with patented formulae, which produce liquid ecological fertilizers (N-P-K, plus micro elements) using common non-toxic mineral compounds.
The formulations do NOT, per se, include any organic materials. However, here in Europe, these formulations are so ecologically friendly ("green") that they are certified for use in "organic" farming operations.
These machines produce N-P-K fertilizers WITHOUT EVER using dangerous, explosive, Ammonium Nitrate. Accordingly, you will find that a broad deployment of these machines, throughout our nation can be a big help in the "War On Terror", since they form the basis of restricting Ammonium Nitrate to a very very few, large industrial farm operations. As such, terrorists will have a much harder time making Oklahoma City-styled bombs.
We have erected a pilot facility (for sales purposes, so as to not give away formulae secrets during actual operations) near the city of Buzau (about 100 km from Bucharest). We are prepared to allow close inspection of this facility by you or your designated representatives and/or by the United States government in Bucharest, which could confirm any and all claims we make about this enterprise for anyone interested.
We are requesting that you or someone you trust undertake a “fact-finding” trip to Romania to witness the machinery and the processes after an initial evaluation by the aforementioned appropriate local representatives of the U.S. government who are presently in Bucharest.
Thereafter, we would ask you to seriously consider corporate sponsorship of a deployment of these machines along your proposed wind generation corridor (as spelled-out in the Pickens Plan). Thereafter, we ask that you propose legislation back in the Congress, which would place these machines in service throughout the United States in sufficient numbers and in broad enough distribution (as to area) so as to support subsequent legislation to strictly curtail and limit access to Ammonium Nitrate fertilizers, as a measure to assist in “the War on Terror”. The machines and processes are needed because, until now, no large-scale, commercially-viable alternative existed to Ammonium Nitrate fertilizers.
Only with a nation-wide mandate to increase efficiency in nitrogen delivery, such as can be achieved by the large-scale use of these machines, can the aforementioned 40+ % increase in natural gas use efficiency be had, as it relates to natural gas use in fertilizer production.
With these machines, you eliminate a readily-available explosive from the public domain. This does not even touch the other benefits to be had from these remarkable fertilizers.
In the spirit of patriotism, we are prepared to work with you to ensure that costs for deployment of this technology is not prohibitive and also does not run counter to either good business or the National Interests of the United States.
Specifically, we offer to train trainers here in Romania and there, in the United States, once domestic production is funded and, otherwise, fully supported.
We have all information at the ready to support our proposal, immediately. Please contact us, directly, for more specific information.
Think how many people would be put to work simply manufacturing the machinery (places like closed shipyards or other facilities closed during a recent economic slowdown would be perfect, for example).
We hope to hear from you or from someone of equal vision for a more energy self-sufficient future for the United States.
While we would rather keep this simple and deal, exclusively, with one man of vision and means, we are prepared, in any case, to license those who might wish to use our inventions on some lesser scale.
Sincerely,
Thomas L. Ketchum, Jr.
and Elena M. Ketchum
for
SC Thopy7 SRL
Strada Dr. Ion Nanu Muscel, Nr. 13, Ap. 3
Bucharest, Romania
050521
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