SIMPLE SYSTEM FOR SOLAR HEAT developed by Anachronism
Comment by Anachronism 2 hours ago
Hi, Everybody. I'm posting a means to lower your use of natural gas, oil and electricity to heat your home, shop or business. I have designed, applied and used this "Stupidly simple system" to five business for 25 years and change the heating costs of $100 a day to $1 a day for 25 years.
The comparison is my building equaled 8 homes of 2,000 square feet and I heated it using "Passive Solar Heating" since 1984 for a dollar a day, (1.00) per day,
My original system cost about $50 in 1984. Today THE SAME SYSTEM COSTS $ 98.69 FROM EITHER HOME DEPOT OR LOWES!
The information enclosed in the following article is as of 08/19/08 for the actual cost to use in your home or business. Look at actual system's as shown in the following posting.
“Decisions? Decisions?”
Lets take a simple leap and “YOU” fill in the math.
You live in a typical 1500 sq. ft. home and your heating bill per month to maintain a comfortable level of “72 degree’s” costs you $250 (Kelso Wash) August 24, 2008, per month.
You COULD spend $3000 per year.
(The cost shown of $250 per month is from an actual 1000 sq. ft house using electrical Baseboard heater (Smaller then typical)
NOW let’s leap ten years forward and you have spent $30,000 to heat your home.
Now, today you spend $125 and install an individual Attic Solar Heating system, which saves you $100 a month. In ten years you could save $12,000 or decide to simply sit in your chair and know that your “Heating Bills will never increase” AND spend your $30,000 heating your home.
This simple effort doesn’t require you install “Solar Panels” and figure out how to purchase product, install on your roof, “tap into your Electrical System” and purchase the specific “Electrical Connections required by State Rules”. State laws also require a certified Electrical Contractor to “TAP” into your system and they usually charge $150 and hour.
NOW you have created a system to produce electrical power to operate some system or hope you can sell your “Excess” power to your local utility company?
Now you have a group of simple decisions?
1. Will my roof system be damaged and leak water into my house?
2. What happens when something damages your “Solar Electrical” system and it quits?
3. When the sun doesn’t shine on your “Panel’s”, will it heat your house or operate some electrical item?
4. Does it operate at night and produce power?
5. Will the voltage be stable?
I know these problems “will never occur” and your system will operate for the next “Ten years and you will recover your investment of an indeterminate amount” (BUT did you save any money?}
Now the “Panel System” has to be replaced, as it is possible that it will fail to function, be damaged with objects striking the glass panels or some other problem?
Who buy’s “Used” solar panel systems?
Now the operational costs of your “Passive Solar System” has required no repairs, or changes and it simply “HELPS” to heat your home?
Look at the 25-year track record of our (4) Passive Solar heating projects and the 20-year operations of our “dual unit” creating “Passive Solar Cooling & Heating “ with NO Maintenance Required in any of these systems.
UPDATE-Supplies from LOWES-Dated 08/19/08 to “Purchase” enough supplies to install a stand alone “Passive Solar Heating Unit” to pull heated attic air into your residence.
Quantity ITEM SKU PRICE
1 8” Duct Fan Motor #185010 29.93
1 8” Black Ducting (flex) #36441 38.69
(You will have 12’ of ducting left over to assist your children, friends or the older couple next door who can’t afford to pay $50 a month to try and keep warm?? HELP OTHERS? It’s noble to share?
(A) Separate Electrical Control to turn on using temperature sensor in peak of attic area. Approx. 60.00
(Ranco ETC Commercial Temperature Controls, Part # ETC-111000
Available from CED electrical supply house OR from Honey Run Apiaries for a model to replace my original “Goldline 30” used in 1984 project”)(Quote from “Honey Run” of $59.99) 2008
(B) Electrical connections to 8” duct motor (120 V single phases) you may be allowed to connect, BUT don’t assume you can!
(C) Finish trim inside
No labor costs to install in the above figures,
Need Cloth or Metal strapping to hold ducting in place in the attic
You now have the parts to create a stand-alone unit for Passive solar HEATING.
Approximate costs ------- $123.62 + tax and labor.
CAN YOU AFFORD TO SPEND $123.62 TO POTENTIONALY SAVE $12,000
IF you have a “Downdraft” furnace system you only need part #36441 (the insulated Ducting) and Separate Electrical Control to operate the sensor to turn on the “fan motor of your current downdraft hot air system” and it will distribute the “FREE” solar throughout “YOUR” complete HOME
Your “DOWNDRAFT” system could cost $38.69 for ducting and $60 for sensor unit or a total of $98.69 PLUS your labor and misc. ducting supports and or sealing duct tape for any joints.
REMEMBER I have heated a building the size of “11” separate homes of 1600 sq. feet for 25 years for less then a” $1.00 per day”.
(Check Photo “IMG_0002_2 with comments under Photo. http://push.pickensplan.com/photo/photo/show?id=2187034%3aphoto%3a5...
“YOU DECIDE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU AND DO IT “NOW”
I know it’s hard to make decisions and then do something? So simply forget the information discussed above and continue as before?
“MAKE A DECISION AND DO SOMETHING!!!!
http://push.pickensplan.com/profile/Anachronism
Anachronism
As a side note you can actually "Passively solar Cool" your home or business as I have accomplished that in Vancouver Wa. for 20 years and this building equals 14 houses of 2000 sq. feet and has averaged about $1.15 per day. Everything shown and talked about did happen and continues to occur daily.
The methods used are simple and have not required repairs, changes and NO human intervention to make it work. It requires you to do something or simply sit in your chair and watch the world go by?
SIMPLY DO SOMETHING, BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WILL!
Hi, Everybody. I'm posting a means to lower your use of natural gas, oil and electricity to heat your home, shop or business. I have designed, applied and used this "Stupidly simple system" to five business for 25 years and change the heating costs of $100 a day to $1 a day for 25 years.
The comparison is my building equaled 8 homes of 2,000 square feet and I heated it using "Passive Solar Heating" since 1984 for a dollar a day, (1.00) per day,
My original system cost about $50 in 1984. Today THE SAME SYSTEM COSTS $ 98.69 FROM EITHER HOME DEPOT OR LOWES!
The information enclosed in the following article is as of 08/19/08 for the actual cost to use in your home or business. Look at actual system's as shown in the following posting.
“Decisions? Decisions?”
Lets take a simple leap and “YOU” fill in the math.
You live in a typical 1500 sq. ft. home and your heating bill per month to maintain a comfortable level of “72 degree’s” costs you $250 (Kelso Wash) August 24, 2008, per month.
You COULD spend $3000 per year.
(The cost shown of $250 per month is from an actual 1000 sq. ft house using electrical Baseboard heater (Smaller then typical)
NOW let’s leap ten years forward and you have spent $30,000 to heat your home.
Now, today you spend $125 and install an individual Attic Solar Heating system, which saves you $100 a month. In ten years you could save $12,000 or decide to simply sit in your chair and know that your “Heating Bills will never increase” AND spend your $30,000 heating your home.
This simple effort doesn’t require you install “Solar Panels” and figure out how to purchase product, install on your roof, “tap into your Electrical System” and purchase the specific “Electrical Connections required by State Rules”. State laws also require a certified Electrical Contractor to “TAP” into your system and they usually charge $150 and hour.
NOW you have created a system to produce electrical power to operate some system or hope you can sell your “Excess” power to your local utility company?
Now you have a group of simple decisions?
1. Will my roof system be damaged and leak water into my house?
2. What happens when something damages your “Solar Electrical” system and it quits?
3. When the sun doesn’t shine on your “Panel’s”, will it heat your house or operate some electrical item?
4. Does it operate at night and produce power?
5. Will the voltage be stable?
I know these problems “will never occur” and your system will operate for the next “Ten years and you will recover your investment of an indeterminate amount” (BUT did you save any money?}
Now the “Panel System” has to be replaced, as it is possible that it will fail to function, be damaged with objects striking the glass panels or some other problem?
Who buy’s “Used” solar panel systems?
Now the operational costs of your “Passive Solar System” has required no repairs, or changes and it simply “HELPS” to heat your home?
Look at the 25-year track record of our (4) Passive Solar heating projects and the 20-year operations of our “dual unit” creating “Passive Solar Cooling & Heating “ with NO Maintenance Required in any of these systems.
UPDATE-Supplies from LOWES-Dated 08/19/08 to “Purchase” enough supplies to install a stand alone “Passive Solar Heating Unit” to pull heated attic air into your residence.
Quantity ITEM SKU PRICE
1 8” Duct Fan Motor #185010 29.93
1 8” Black Ducting (flex) #36441 38.69
(You will have 12’ of ducting left over to assist your children, friends or the older couple next door who can’t afford to pay $50 a month to try and keep warm?? HELP OTHERS? It’s noble to share?
(A) Separate Electrical Control to turn on using temperature sensor in peak of attic area. Approx. 60.00
(Ranco ETC Commercial Temperature Controls, Part # ETC-111000
Available from CED electrical supply house OR from Honey Run Apiaries for a model to replace my original “Goldline 30” used in 1984 project”)(Quote from “Honey Run” of $59.99) 2008
(B) Electrical connections to 8” duct motor (120 V single phases) you may be allowed to connect, BUT don’t assume you can!
(C) Finish trim inside
No labor costs to install in the above figures,
Need Cloth or Metal strapping to hold ducting in place in the attic
You now have the parts to create a stand-alone unit for Passive solar HEATING.
Approximate costs ------- $123.62 + tax and labor.
CAN YOU AFFORD TO SPEND $123.62 TO POTENTIONALY SAVE $12,000
IF you have a “Downdraft” furnace system you only need part #36441 (the insulated Ducting) and Separate Electrical Control to operate the sensor to turn on the “fan motor of your current downdraft hot air system” and it will distribute the “FREE” solar throughout “YOUR” complete HOME
Your “DOWNDRAFT” system could cost $38.69 for ducting and $60 for sensor unit or a total of $98.69 PLUS your labor and misc. ducting supports and or sealing duct tape for any joints.
REMEMBER I have heated a building the size of “11” separate homes of 1600 sq. feet for 25 years for less then a” $1.00 per day”.
(Check Photo “IMG_0002_2 with comments under Photo. http://push.pickensplan.com/photo/photo/show?id=2187034%3aphoto%3a5...
“YOU DECIDE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU AND DO IT “NOW”
I know it’s hard to make decisions and then do something? So simply forget the information discussed above and continue as before?
“MAKE A DECISION AND DO SOMETHING!!!!
http://push.pickensplan.com/profile/Anachronism
Anachronism
As a side note you can actually "Passively solar Cool" your home or business as I have accomplished that in Vancouver Wa. for 20 years and this building equals 14 houses of 2000 sq. feet and has averaged about $1.15 per day. Everything shown and talked about did happen and continues to occur daily.
The methods used are simple and have not required repairs, changes and NO human intervention to make it work. It requires you to do something or simply sit in your chair and watch the world go by?
SIMPLY DO SOMETHING, BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WILL!
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Permalink Reply by Anachronism on -
Hi Donna: I need to see your exterior to comprehend how to design a solar system and understand what you can accomplish or already have in place. I LOVE simple and take it to the extreme. Example: When building our second house I found a crazy old man buying cedar 2x4'x 20', from Canada and slicing this CLEAR cedar 2x4's into 3 pieces to make CLEAR CEDAR into 1x4 T&G siding. I bought this stuff and completely sided our new house for a cost of $1,000 instead of $20,000 as quoted by local builders. YOU must step away from the NAY Sayers and make your own decisions! Another day during the construction process, I walked into the largest Building supply company in Bellingham and asked a simple question? "Do you have any new cabinets I can purchase for my home? This salesman/manager said, "Yes, we NEED to get rid of our current line of cabinets as our new "line" is arriving in 2 days! I asked if I could see these units and I offered them $400 for everything and I guaranteed removal that day! They said "yes" and I removed 4 truckloads in 8 hours. Received enough for three homes of new pre-finished cabinets in one conversation. You don't ask, you don't achieve! You simply decide and proceed forward!
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Permalink Reply by kat on -
Very interesting but I live in a mobil home that doesn't have a roof that you can put anything on and has no basement either unless you call the space under the mobil a basement of sorts, but you won't find me crawling around down there, all sorts of nasty critters and spiders.
It sounds great though and affordable which is a major plus.
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Permalink Reply by Laura Patch on -
Hi Anachronism,
Nobody in the world knows less about heating and cooling as you describe than I. Nobody wants to know more about it than I, either. You are my "Leson 101" on my personal learning curve. I've printed your information and will think about it, talk about it, and learn what I can as I try to assimilate ideas never before considered. Thanks for your input. Laura -
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Permalink Reply by Anachronism on
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Questions? Carefully decide what your are missing, think about that knowledge you need and I will freely assist you in your efforts. My history in building started in 1957 and continues to this time period. MY underlying desire in solar heating use involved the need to "Charge" more for my storage room and have the customer perceive the difference. In the first two project in Centralia and Burlington allowed us to "pull" customers from our competitors at the same price they charged for unheated. Guess what happened? We filled "Full" in 60 days instead of 16 months. Needless to say we raised the rates every month and started another. THIS a fantastic business to be in. It can give a return of 70% per year for your investment. In our Mount Vernon project it filled full in 11 months and produced $12,500 gross a month and cost $2,500 for all operating expenses. The passive solar operating costs were about $1 per day. The above building volume was 11 homes of 2400 sq. ft. The solar aspect will save you heating costs with no ongoing expense.
What I have explained is real and simply costs nothing in the short term EXCEPT for you simply doing nothing, then it costs you your heating bill every month. You simply decide whom you pay? Them or YOU? Simple Answer?
Our first project in Centralia allowed us to build, fill and sell to another buyer and walk away with $200,000 beyond our investment of $40,000. You must make decisions or everybody else does it for you! -
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Permalink Reply by Phillips A Moore on -
The link to the illustration [ http://push.pickensplan.com/photo/photo/show?id=2187034%3aphoto%3a5 ] does not work! Please provide a new link. I am really interested in seeing what you are describing!
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Permalink Reply by Wayne Alderman on -
You are right Phillips, I will try to resolve this and get back to you.
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Permalink Reply by Anachronism on
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Hi Phillip: go to Anachronism Page and click on Photos to see the different buildings. Need more detail? Please leave a message and your questions for a clear message. Anachronism 9/8/08
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Permalink Reply by Janice L Stephenson on -
Sounds like a good idea to me. I agree with Veronica though, could you post some pictures and/or diagrams on how to do this? My husband and I are getting older and will need to have someone help us with this kind of project. Thanks
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Permalink Reply by Veronica on -
Hi Janice,
There's another aspect to your point about getting older. The time taken to recoup costs of installing solar panels must be considered by those of us who are retired. Yet another factor for consideration is the amount of sun available in one's region of the country. We live in northwest Ohio where the sun shines about one day each month during the winter. Yes, I know solar panels function on cloudy days, but not nearly as well as with full sun. As a retiree myself, I offer "kudos" to Anachronism for a great recycling idea and one that fits the lifestyles of those of us on fixed incomes.
We hope to install this system no later than November, so if you install before that time, please let me know how it works for you. I'll do the same, but it doesn't take any technical knowledge to understand that Anachronism's system is simply recapturing heat normally lost. Yes!!!! -
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Permalink Reply by Anachronism on
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Hi, Veronica, the first day my Burlington project produced "Passive Solar Heat" it was snowing, 23 degrees and 3" of snow on the roof! THE sun is always ready to heat your home. NO TECHNICAL knowledge required! THE sun allows every thing to function. You warm up when you go out? Your house does too! DO something as it's impossible to go back and capture the past? Anachronism. Veronica I'm going on 69 and I will not slow down! You appear about 30 years old, "GO GIRL, GO!"
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Permalink Reply by Veronica on
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Hi Anachronism,
It sounds like your winters are similar to ours in Ohio. Whatever led you to think of your "recapture heat system"? Your mind is much more active than most people half your age and thanks for the compliment. My motto is "Use it or lose it." -
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