Barack's Energy Plan: The poisoned apple
It seems all the energy plans these days are calling for significant energy conservation, and small steps toward making the energy we use "green". Obama has said we need to, first, pick the lowest hanging apple, that is, reducing our energy consumption. This is wrong. The lowest hanging apple is also the poisoned apple. Our efforts should be focused toward providing our energy needs through alternative sources, rather than reducing our consumption. Our focus on reducing consumption should be a secondary.
The reason why, is our economy is driven by energy. We use energy to produce and process everything we consume or need. If we decrease our energy consumption, we slow down our economy. Our economy is dependent on energy, absolutely. We use energy to build houses, produce metals and wood, till corn fields, etc. If we no longer have this resource to produce these goods, be prepared for housing prices, food prices, automobile prices, and the price of every other commodity we enjoy to increase even further.
There is no question we have the resources, money, and technology to replace our energy needs within the next few decades, the trick is putting our vast wealth toward long lasting alternative energy, rather than crutches like further oil drilling.
My point is, America is the greatest, richest, and most technologically advanced country in the world. We have the resources to provide all our energy needs through alternative sources. Lets go green the American way, by providing for our needs through clean alternatives, rather than changing our lifestyles to accomodate a diminishing fuel supply.
The reason why, is our economy is driven by energy. We use energy to produce and process everything we consume or need. If we decrease our energy consumption, we slow down our economy. Our economy is dependent on energy, absolutely. We use energy to build houses, produce metals and wood, till corn fields, etc. If we no longer have this resource to produce these goods, be prepared for housing prices, food prices, automobile prices, and the price of every other commodity we enjoy to increase even further.
There is no question we have the resources, money, and technology to replace our energy needs within the next few decades, the trick is putting our vast wealth toward long lasting alternative energy, rather than crutches like further oil drilling.
My point is, America is the greatest, richest, and most technologically advanced country in the world. We have the resources to provide all our energy needs through alternative sources. Lets go green the American way, by providing for our needs through clean alternatives, rather than changing our lifestyles to accomodate a diminishing fuel supply.
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Permalink Reply by Josh Schmitt on -
While we have vast oil shale reserves, they aren't economically recoverable. The cost of oil we produce from shale will be more expensive than what we're paying now.
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Permalink Reply by Brandon on -
No it is not, In-situ Retorting costs about $20 to $30 per barrel.
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Permalink Reply by Josh Schmitt on
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We need to get into clean energy for economic, as well as, environmental reasons. The beauty of alternatives (such as wind) is that, for a single monitary investment, they return a continuous inflow of energy. We exchange a fixed sum for a rate of return over decades to come.
Both politicians have energy plans; Barack's is much better than McCain's. McCain' really isn't even a plan; and the non-plan is uneducated at best. Given a free market, the only factor that would drive clean energy is fuel cost; that's why we've seen such a surge in wind power over the last year. Tax offsets will curb the cost of fuel to reflect its true cost on the economy and the environment.
The issue is that Barack wants to focus, first, on changing our lifestyle (the lowest hanging apple) to accommodate the end goal, whereas the better plan is to invest more heavily in alternatives so we can continue our lifestyle, while still being clean. We have resources that other countries don't that makes it possible for us to continue living as we do, while meanwhile becoming clean.
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Permalink Reply by dave murray on -
there afraid we will smoke it. switchgrass is also a great biomass grows like hemp too
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Permalink Reply by Dale Nelson on -
Thanks for the reality check. We will begin to live like the Europeans. Use mass transit. Walk a lot. Sail powered water craft, smooth and quiet, not jet skis. Many urban Americans already live this way. NYC, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, SF, Seattle, Portland all have major areas that are low energy now. And have a sophisticated way of life with great variety and comfort.
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Permalink Reply by Joe Bonsignore on -
Must be a Jet fan and belives that the ants in a farm make the light bulb warmer.
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Permalink Reply by moomesa on -
no matter how you spin it m.g. obama's politics are socialist. and if you take a look at other socialist countries you will see their bread lines are pretty long
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Permalink Reply by Dale Nelson on
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Source for this statement? Tell us about the bread lines in Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Holland. Put up pictures or withdraw the comment. The countries named are long time Social Democratic lands, or as you say 'socialist'.
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Permalink Reply by moomesa on
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the comments made by me are not from a crazy right winger nor are they made be a religious zealot. they're made by a realist whom understands history and what happens when you don't pay attention to it
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Permalink Reply by moomesa on
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i don't know were you get your news but those are not the only countries you sould be comparing this to. leave out the bad ones and it serves your purpose.
but still ...take from the rich to give to the poor -socialist
take from everybody to give to everybody-socialist
redistribution of wealth- socialist
should i go on?
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Permalink Reply by Dale Nelson on
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You don't need to go on. You need to cite sources. I picked some of the most successful Social Democracies for a reason: they show that 'socialism' does not necessarily need to be a failure. What I ask is that you provide proof of your assertion. Which is not asking too much. Or maybe it is here.
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Permalink Reply by Kathryn Bryant on -
If you want to live in a socialist country, please leave the U.S. I am so tired of half the country trying to force the rest of us into socialism. This is the USA and we want to keep it that way! Maybe this country needs to split into two countries but the socialists will have to pick one coast, east or west; they can't have both.
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