Algae Bio Mass Farms can produce up to 33,000 gallons of oil per acre per year!
Boone Pickens is trying to make a difference. I am trying to make a difference. There is a way to make Oil that is not getting much press.
This process is to make Fuel from Algae. This process is clean. This process is renewable. This process won't drive up food prices like the process from corn to ethanol - quite the opposite in my opinion. I believe prices would begin to come down for the commodities related to energy. This Algae I am referring to, is not grown in ponds. This Algae is grown in a closed system - a Bio Reactor. Each Algae Cell typically contains 50% oil or more. By comparing corn against Algae - there is no comparison. The film clip indicates that one acre of corn will produce 18 - 25 gallons of oil yearly. One acre of Algae will produce 33,000 gallons of oil yearly. With some land dedicated to this process, all of our oil needs could be satisfied. Imports from foreign oil would drop drastically. We wouldn't have to drill either anymore - either offshore or in the Arctic. It is estimated that 1/10th of the land mass of New Mexico dedicated to this process could produce all of our oil needs.
Another great thing about this is that different strains of Algae can produce different types of fuel. I.e. diesel, gas, fuel oil and more can be produced by these means. These Algae Bio Reactors could be built near where the refineries are. That would cut down on the transportation of the oil as we know it now. How much would that save? There are a few more things about this Plan. This Algae Oil Production will use up carbon dioxide which will help with the Green House Effect that we are having. Algae needs carbon dioxide to grow. Growing corn causes a lot of fuel hydrocarbons to be released into the atmosphere and adds to pollutants.
I want the same thing that Boone Pickens is striving for. To use every means possible to cut back on our imports of oil - now! Not 10 years from now. I want the best way to produce energy. I hope Boone takes a look at this idea and gives it some thought. Personally, I think this is the very best idea I have heard of so far to date. I have not heard of one bad thing yet about producing Oil from Algae.
Take a look at the Valcent Site. It explains it well.
Don't be misled about the lower cost of oil at this time. Once we get out of this recession the price of oil will rise again and the pain will re-emerge once again from the high cost of fuel for driving and heating.
This is a great idea and I hope you can appreciate this Plan. This Plan really needs to be explored and needs your help for it to work. You need to write your Senators and Representatives about this Plan. I am hopeful that once they learn of the significance of this Plan that they will give incentives so this Plan can start producing sooner than later!
Remember, it took us about 10 years from start to finish to achieve one of man's greatest achievments - Going to the Moon! We did it three times. No other country has achieved this even with modern technology. We now have another Challenge - to get off Foreign Oil and to retain our way of life and all the choices we hold dear. This can be achieved by going all out on producing Oil from Algae and developing the latest technologies to do this.
http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html
This is Valcent's Web Site. Check it out!
http://www.valcent.net/s/Ecotech.asp?ReportID=182039
This process is to make Fuel from Algae. This process is clean. This process is renewable. This process won't drive up food prices like the process from corn to ethanol - quite the opposite in my opinion. I believe prices would begin to come down for the commodities related to energy. This Algae I am referring to, is not grown in ponds. This Algae is grown in a closed system - a Bio Reactor. Each Algae Cell typically contains 50% oil or more. By comparing corn against Algae - there is no comparison. The film clip indicates that one acre of corn will produce 18 - 25 gallons of oil yearly. One acre of Algae will produce 33,000 gallons of oil yearly. With some land dedicated to this process, all of our oil needs could be satisfied. Imports from foreign oil would drop drastically. We wouldn't have to drill either anymore - either offshore or in the Arctic. It is estimated that 1/10th of the land mass of New Mexico dedicated to this process could produce all of our oil needs.
Another great thing about this is that different strains of Algae can produce different types of fuel. I.e. diesel, gas, fuel oil and more can be produced by these means. These Algae Bio Reactors could be built near where the refineries are. That would cut down on the transportation of the oil as we know it now. How much would that save? There are a few more things about this Plan. This Algae Oil Production will use up carbon dioxide which will help with the Green House Effect that we are having. Algae needs carbon dioxide to grow. Growing corn causes a lot of fuel hydrocarbons to be released into the atmosphere and adds to pollutants.
I want the same thing that Boone Pickens is striving for. To use every means possible to cut back on our imports of oil - now! Not 10 years from now. I want the best way to produce energy. I hope Boone takes a look at this idea and gives it some thought. Personally, I think this is the very best idea I have heard of so far to date. I have not heard of one bad thing yet about producing Oil from Algae.
Take a look at the Valcent Site. It explains it well.
Don't be misled about the lower cost of oil at this time. Once we get out of this recession the price of oil will rise again and the pain will re-emerge once again from the high cost of fuel for driving and heating.
This is a great idea and I hope you can appreciate this Plan. This Plan really needs to be explored and needs your help for it to work. You need to write your Senators and Representatives about this Plan. I am hopeful that once they learn of the significance of this Plan that they will give incentives so this Plan can start producing sooner than later!
Remember, it took us about 10 years from start to finish to achieve one of man's greatest achievments - Going to the Moon! We did it three times. No other country has achieved this even with modern technology. We now have another Challenge - to get off Foreign Oil and to retain our way of life and all the choices we hold dear. This can be achieved by going all out on producing Oil from Algae and developing the latest technologies to do this.
http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html
This is Valcent's Web Site. Check it out!
http://www.valcent.net/s/Ecotech.asp?ReportID=182039
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Permalink Reply by Auntie Tutu on -
Long ago in a land far away, a relative of mine was married to a Nuclear Power Plant Design Engineer. He is dead now, after three hear bypass operations, two pig valves and 7 years with a ziplock back at his waist instead of a bladder. But that fellow, over dinner table conversations, would shake his head at the antics of the United State s Nuclear Regulatory Commission. He told us that these officiealls woould call ahead a month in advance to set up a meeting with the honchos of Diablo Canyon, or whatever Power Plant Uncle Peer was working on at the time, and when they came in for the interview, they would take notes on the safety measures that PG & E or Bechtel Corp had decided to put in at the Nuclear Power Plant. They carefully wrote down everything. And then, about a month later, Peer would get a copy of the formal letter notifying the Plant engineers and operator s of t he safety regulations that would apply. They just opied what the company had been doing. The government had no idea what regulations to set, so they jus t went to the companies to find out what they were actually doing, and then officially told them to do exactly that.
It is, as a matter of fact, exactly why we still have fubber and plastic in our standard issue grocery store Ice crea. When the government does not know how to do somethinig, they go to industry and ask them how they do it, and then tell them to do it that way. THe GRAS rules (generally regarded as safe) are still in effecdt from the 1950's when the first investigators were deciding what you could put in food. IF it didn''t kill you within 2 hours of eating it, it was considered safe.
Now go visit your neighborhood nuclear power plant and go order ice ream in their cafeteria. It is the good old American way.
Don't bother with those crazies who think the sky is falling, or that we ought to behave witha global conscience.
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Permalink Reply by Mike Tiller on -
All the Pickens Plan members should buy some SYNJ stock.
It's cheap and lining up to roll out energy alternative products.
Like biodiesel blend for example.
Check it out.Symbol SYNJ
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Permalink Reply by Henry on -
Mike,
It is my desire to keep this site open to discuss the algae oil idea. If you have any concrete facts on algae production now or future, you are welcome to write on this site. I am asking you to stay on topic. Thanks.
Henry
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Permalink Reply by Terrence Abrams on -
Hey Big Guy,
I certainly understand. I don't go back to the Pickens Plan much anymore, that's a broken record still trying to scratch its way around a phonograph table. Pickens is all set about Natural Gas for heavy vehicles, electric only for small, still blind to the infrastructure realities that billions can't be spent to redo state power infrastructures, and no one wants to buy a lite electric vehicle for short range uncomfortable (and less safe driving) and no one wants a CNG vehicle for longer driving, because even in the best current CNG option, you have to charge up 3 times for every 1 gas tank equivalent, suddenly making CNG cars 2.5 times more expensive to operate. And that is just for beginners.
The obvious fuels gaining huge momentum are what many of us argued on the Pickens Plan, but were often shouted down by the Pickens die-hard employees and loyalists. The Algae-Oil to biodiesel and bio-gasoline are huge winners. All of the major Oil and Gas companies have invested billions in it cumulatively now, and the smaller venture operations have all procured their own biophoto reactors for processing Algae Oil. Continental Airlines, Air New Zealand, Many trucking companies, some bus lines, all anticipate having their fleets supplied by up to 50% biofuels within 3 years or less.
CNG can be used in the homes or commercial utility vehicles, that's all we need it for, but Pickens wanted billions more in profit by pushing the country into it for his son's operations in the future. He's well vested in natural gas, solar and wind, but he refused biofuels intentionally, and now his movement is paying for it. He's even been recently out-maneuvered on some Windfarm developments, further cutting his future profit potentials. You'll see ol' T.Boone quietly ramping up domestic land production of crude oil now to keep his stocks and options high, in a silent manner. He's cooked. John Kerry did talk to Obama; Pickens will be listened too, thanked, and politely shown the door. Just as many of us predicted, that story has closed the book covers.
I hope Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Laura and others can keep up the good work exposing Obama for what he is, because none of his claims hold up, and his Green Energy Jobs Czar is a very stupid, self-proclaimed communist radical who sees using green energy as a tool to tear down current American systems and completely replace them with socialist pay-for-the-poor-to-play new programs.
Imagine the truth coming forward, everyone who supported Obama on the Pickens Plan, just helped destroy the Pickens Plan and any real energy initiatives we could have had as a country. When Obama decides to actually 'get to green energy' most private companies will have already been long ahead of him and his other admitted socialist Secretary of Energy who does not have a clue. They'll be sure to try and take credit for new company successes, who will be scared to voice differences of opinions against this administration, but the truth is, American innovation, desperate to be successful before Obama-clan regulations can nail them, will have done it all by themselves.
And still to this day, all those supporting Obama can't explain for one second, why all green energy stocks, by about 96%, have been and still are stuck in the toilet, barely maintaining value if at all. This is not due to the economy either, as this sector has tons of funds being deposited into it.
Remember that loser Brian, trying to laugh off his DNC carcass butt when we posted the real possibility of John Kerry working effectively against the Pickens Plan last year? Well guess who was invited to comment on what initiatives should be given priority for a new national energy policy at a White House Dinner last May? Yep, the committee chair on national defense, John Kerry. Guess who he 'X'ed of the list of agendas first? Pickens is done, his "Save the nation from Foriegn Oil" approach for his own personal narrow profit incentives would not have made it with McCain either, but he'd have had a better chance with it. In either way, his view was shortsighted, selfish and ignorant, and now he's out of the equation.
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Permalink Reply by eddie rabon on -
Hi Terrence,
I agree, I have said this many times that most presidents will make a "baby step" in what they propose to do, the media then sensationalizes it to make it out to be some big thing..
I had foolishly believed that the prices on food would come down because everyone was saying that it reflected transportation cost.
What is really going to be sad to see is when the algae fuel finally goes mainstream and government steps in and takes all the credit for everyone else's hard work.
everyone that already has an electric car or hybrid car , solar panels, wind, will be one up on us, I am thinking that they already had read the signs of change a lot longer than the pickens site had been around and had done something to secure their situation.
as long a the auto industry is unwilling to change and go to making more fuel efficient cars ,bio fuels, and are stuck in the stigma that there is no oil shortage then nothing will change for many more years to come .
Change? Obama? I am waiting for this man to crack like old smooth talker Jimmy Carter did and then see how his four in office will treat him too..
president carter was all smiles when he went in and looked like a train wreck when he'd left.
Reagen prices fell the dollar was worth something again, Clinton even though I didn't care to hear about his personal life had the right formula for getting the country out of debt and then it was in the media that hmmm were looking at a profit now lets spend it...
pickens might have gone down I don't know, hopefully the ideas thats been inspired for all of us to be here hasn't but there is one old hat that might do some talking of his own too and he has the money to back it up if he'd some out of the wood work and thats h ross perot
he had a lot of high sounding words but i guess his time was then and like everything else the government will wait until it fades from public memory.
Obama will hope for the same.
if government truely wants to cut spending then they need to go with companies that are close to or already have a viable solution ready to combat foreign oil and not put any more into companies that wants a 10 to 15 year grant to study the problem any more.
its out there its time is now, algae oil for the future..if your not ready then buy a pair of sneakers.
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Permalink Reply by Lock Piatt on -
New questions for the true believers of global warming?
http://townhall.com/columnists/JonahGoldberg/2009/09/02/global_warm...
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Permalink Reply by SJC on -
I have heard lots of claims about what algae COULD do, but no real proof of what if DOES do in massive quantities to help reduce oil imports. It seems like they say that they just need lots more money and time and it will work. After more than 10 years, I would think that there would be dozens of algae companies producing billions of gallons, but there are not.
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Permalink Reply by Gerald A. Cain on -
Hey
I have this thread tagged to alert my of responses.I have to applaud SJC for his/her point. I see the compelling articles on the useful potential of BIO-FUEL which algae based oil is All I can add to the solution: I only hear about Bio Fuel is on the science shows. Mythbuster's did what I thought was the best example of bio fuel. They powered a Mercedes (diesel engine) with clean vegetable oil. I truly believe algae based oil makes sense! However, without Pickens support it lacks a powerful media boost. Just a opinion:
Also
I don't believe a credible environmental impact study has been done. Water and waste issues, Clearly have to make an impact which could derail the idea.
Cheers
Wdhpr
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Permalink Reply by eddie rabon on
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Well this is some more great news!!not only can we look forward to algae one day being a drop in replacement but check out these links ,
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http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/News-algae-battery-nanostructure...
http://gas2.org/2009/09/11/algae-based-non-metallic-batteries-could...
if your not burning it through a throttle body or fuel injector you may as well recharge it lol. i love reading about these breakthroughs and just hope popularity doesn't wane as anyone still following the post can say hmmm why arnt we trying to take more advantage of this?
You never know... the next big thing will be they have found some way to dye algae and it make a better solar collector for peoples roof tops.
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Permalink Reply by Henry on
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Eddie,
Thanks for the news. Who would have ever thought that algae could be used in this sort of application. It is not exactly what I have been talking about but this is great news. Battery storage power will be greatly increased for all applications.
I hope all those reading this realize that Chevron is budgeting $200 million to research algae. Algae oil is already being used in some aircraft in a limited way. I haven't heard of any dire effects from these operations. Algae oil is coming and the process can be sped up by concerned people writing to their representatives to make algae oil a reality.
Henry
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Permalink Reply by eddie rabon on
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Well I know it is not algae oil to fuel, and I was excited to see the aircraft that ran on the algae fuel and the other alternative fuel " can't remember what it was off the top of my head"But when I had seen the battery application for this and thought that if it had the same or better application v/s a lithium ion battery then not only would it be better recycled for the other components in it but make it less necessary to use other components which would probably take forever to decompose in a land fill somewhere.especially when you read the toxicity part on there.air planes,trains and buss for long haul transport should use the algae oil/fuel town to town or around town battery and if this comes a reality with the algae based batteries then what could be better for the environment? A rechargeable algae battery for battery cars, if that couldn't get one excited about the possibility's of what we can do with algae then what could?
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