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Permalink Reply by neil cox on July 4, 2009 at 7:07pm

Hi Deuceman: You quoted me correctly, but somehow I feel misquoted. There are several methods of getting energy from the sea, but to date, all of them cost twice as much as solar, three times as much as big wind turbines in West Texas, if not even less competitive.
Governments and public opinion have and always will persuade sort of free market forces. Power lines and power producers do require some government meddling for good results, possibly considerable meddling to avoid things like Enron. Worse government has sold out to the biggest bribes, and has no intention of doing anything even close to free market. It is hard to be optimistic, when so few people are motivated by the needs of society instead of their own want for power and/or wealth.
Unregulated, coal interest will win, polution will worsen and alternative energy leaders will be killed if necessary to keep coal dominant. Energy will be kept in short supply to get bigger profits, and bigger bribes. These ruthless and short sighted methods will spill over to all of commerce, if governments and courts fail to punish the worst offenders. To get some balance between government meddling and hands off, try the forum at http://www.libertarianunderground.com Neil

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Permalink Reply by DubleDeuce on August 25, 2009 at 2:23am

You quoted me correctly, but somehow I feel misquoted.>>

Neil, I would NEVER want to be guilty of putting words in your mouth. THAT would be downright unsanitary. But you and I are SAYING the same thing. I have merely used your statement in the context of contrasting it with Toots Fruit. THanks for saying it so well, Neil.

My quoting you (40 nuclear plants...) in NO way changes the fact that we need ALL of the sources of alternative energy we can get. The FACT is our demand for large quantities of energy cannot now be quenched by the meagher outputs of wind, wave, and PV's.

While all of the alternative energy people have taken to the streets in demonstrations and demands for new energy sources, the oil patch kid has been hard at work, both here and in Saudi Arabia, Brazille, and off shore. We are about to be awash in good old crude oil again.

I wonder who we can get to star in those old familiar blockbusters of yesteryear, when a $100,000 and a Fifth of whiskey and a broad in a tight skirt was all that was needed to bring in a wildcat well? Who will be the next Pickens? of the Central Plains or the central deserts of Saudi Arabia. Will it be el Amin Pickens?

When the new wells of Saudi Arabia, the central US, and the off shore drillings at Santa Barbara, CA are brought on line, we will be back to .89 a gallon oil.

Hope they ain't crushed all them dies for the Hummer and the Escalade. They'll be B-A-C-K!!!

The Deuceman

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Permalink Reply by Terrence Abrams on September 1, 2009 at 1:00pm

Hey Big Guy,

I certainly understand. I don't go back to the Pickens Plan much anymore, that's a broken record still trying to scratch its way around a phonograph table. Pickens is all set about Natural Gas for heavy vehicles, electric only for small, still blind to the infrastructure realities that billions can't be spent to redo state power infrastructures, and no one wants to buy a lite electric vehicle for short range uncomfortable (and less safe driving) and no one wants a CNG vehicle for longer driving, because even in the best current CNG option, you have to charge up 3 times for every 1 gas tank equivalent, suddenly making CNG cars 2.5 times more expensive to operate. And that is just for beginners.

The obvious fuels gaining huge momentum are what many of us argued on the Pickens Plan, but were often shouted down by the Pickens die-hard employees and loyalists. The Algae-Oil to biodiesel and bio-gasoline are huge winners. All of the major Oil and Gas companies have invested billions in it cumulatively now, and the smaller venture operations have all procured their own biophoto reactors for processing Algae Oil. Continental Airlines, Air New Zealand, Many trucking companies, some bus lines, all anticipate having their fleets supplied by up to 50% biofuels within 3 years or less.


CNG can be used in the homes or commercial utility vehicles, that's all we need it for, but Pickens wanted billions more in profit by pushing the country into it for his son's operations in the future. He's well vested in natural gas, solar and wind, but he refused biofuels intentionally, and now his movement is paying for it. He's even been recently out-maneuvered on some Windfarm developments, further cutting his future profit potentials. You'll see ol' T.Boone quietly ramping up domestic land production of crude oil now to keep his stocks and options high, in a silent manner. He's cooked. John Kerry did talk to Obama; Pickens will be listened too, thanked, and politely shown the door. Just as many of us predicted, that story has closed the book covers.



I hope Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Laura and others can keep up the good work exposing Obama for what he is, because none of his claims hold up, and his Green Energy Jobs Czar is a very stupid, self-proclaimed communist radical who sees using green energy as a tool to tear down current American systems and completely replace them with socialist pay-for-the-poor-to-play new programs.



Imagine the truth coming forward, everyone who supported Obama on the Pickens Plan, just helped destroy the Pickens Plan and any real energy initiatives we could have had as a country. When Obama decides to actually 'get to green energy' most private companies will have already been long ahead of him and his other admitted socialist Secretary of Energy who does not have a clue. They'll be sure to try and take credit for new company successes, who will be scared to voice differences of opinions against this administration, but the truth is, American innovation, desperate to be successful before Obama-clan regulations can nail them, will have done it all by themselves.



And still to this day, all those supporting Obama can't explain for one second, why all green energy stocks, by about 96%, have been and still are stuck in the toilet, barely maintaining value if at all. This is not due to the economy either, as this sector has tons of funds being deposited into it.



Remember that loser Brian, trying to laugh off his DNC carcass butt when we posted the real possibility of John Kerry working effectively against the Pickens Plan last year? Well guess who was invited to comment on what initiatives should be given priority for a new national energy policy at a White House Dinner last May? Yep, the committee chair on national defense, John Kerry. Guess who he 'X'ed of the list of agendas first? Pickens is done, his "Save the nation from Foriegn Oil" approach for his own personal narrow profit incentives would not have made it with McCain either, but he'd have had a better chance with it. In either way, his view was shortsighted, selfish and ignorant, and now he's out of the equation.

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Permalink Reply by ART005 on September 1, 2009 at 1:31pm

Pickens Plan was based on +$10/mmBTU NG and $140/bbl oil. At $4/mmBTU NG and $65/bbl oil things change. All your blubbering is useless.

There isn't one transport mode to suit everyone. A portable light weight EV such as a scooter is great for city condo living vs. time spent waiting for a bus. 2 vehicle city/suburban households that can utilize one CNG vehicle for the ~60 miles/day commuter and their second conventional vehicle to accomoodate the other commuter plus long hauls is a very equitable versitle answer.

No one is going to turn down algae biodiesel when it's priced under $2/gal but until then don't preach what a visionary you are!!

Your profile mentions stocks and dabbling.....you must be a technical genious (joke), your baseless rant is a cheap unqualified stunt at attention grabbing.

Contribute something equitable or go back to your stocks and dabbling.....

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