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To discuss and support the idea of using compressed air to power vehicles.

Website: http://zeropollutionmotors.us
Location: New Paltz NY
Members: 60
Latest Activity: Oct 19

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Tom Zellars

The Air Car in action!!! 1 Reply

Started by Tom Zellars. Last reply by Ted Sep. 7, 2008.

Jonathan Steele

Air energy sources 2 Replies

Started by Jonathan Steele. Last reply by Ted Sep. 7, 2008.

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Stu Hannah Comment by Stu Hannah on September 28, 2009 at 5:17am
Hi Folks, I am new to this group but, have been following the progression of MDI for a couple of years now. I seen that they now have an American affiliat in New Paltz, NY ... Does anyone know the number of someone to talk to up there though as to when they are actually going to be able to start selling these vehicles in the U.S.? Or is there a place in Canada maybe that would let you buy one & bring it here? I have been very interested in this whole "zero pollution/almost zero fuel" thing right from the beggining & am very excited about its prospects for the future. its about time!
Steve DiGiantomasso Comment by Steve DiGiantomasso on March 29, 2009 at 9:42am
Would be nice to build some of these in Citrus County Florida there is plenty of space as well as close enough to the ports of Tampa to be viable for import and export needs. Our community could use the jobs and would be an excellent model setting to help keep our wildlife safe from the harmful effects of pollution. Bring it on! !

P.S. There are many brilliant residents to help.
WALTER REED Comment by WALTER REED on February 8, 2009 at 10:17am


Hi Future Media:

Running a car on air is feasible; even more so for liquid air. Greater efficiency and torque is gain by utilizing an orbital piston engine, such as OPUS. This is because the positive displacement pistons rotate continuously at a right angle to the drive shaft, much like a wrench turning a bolt or nut. There are six power strokes per RPM - and reversible. 'Very different from the typical 3-7 degree leverage of other designs. There is also some advantage as to 8:1 expansion of Liquid-Air.

Liquid-Air can be produced mechanically, directly from the mechanical output torque of wind mill systems. Distribution is much the same as for liquid nitrogen; tanks and Dewar's.

Have a great day,
Walter
Larry M. Aden Comment by Larry M. Aden on February 8, 2009 at 4:30am
Hey, Folks, I think you might be interested in my latest air car development which will save 95% of the energy and resources needed to convert our current fleet to hybrids.
But, I really would like you to read my latest blog post, TO AMASS OUR WEALTH IS TO AMASS OUR POWER, join the AMASS group, and consider lending your talents to help make AMASS a success.
Get back to me, if you are interested.
Jessee McBroom Comment by Jessee McBroom on December 20, 2008 at 2:48pm
As the Air Powered Car is something I have worked on and will work on again in the near future I welcome any who wish to trade notes on this concept as well as any links to existing such vehicles as I would like to compare technical methods employed to arrive at such a transportation method.
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Mark Hedtke Comment by Mark Hedtke on October 4, 2008 at 12:43am
I have been personally following many different alternative powered vehicles over the years and have seen some setbacks, some nefarious warehousing as well as advances that everyone should be embracing. One thing that has been clear throughout my research is generally three things eventually happen to innovations. Someone gets greedy and attempts to subvert the development work. Someone tries to steal it outright or at the very least have the discovery attributed to them. Finally, it gets bought up by a super rich industry and released when they can profit from it. Such is the case in the hydrogen powered car, the hydrogen homestead, engine modifications and developments and the PV manufacturing advances. So when I read posts by promising PhD candidates like Seth.Nickerson, reveling in his discoveries, yet that had been refined to the point of near production status by Dr. Roger E. Billings back in the late 1970's. When I see people questioning why we are pushing the electricity generated back onto the grid from PV's, when I saw a major Oil corporation who had control of the purse strings of a well know corporation that is publicly traded on the stock market that is involved in cable, shelve the successfully tested mass production method of PV's because they claimed it was cost effective. In the area of vehicles, it is MDI, who has made the greatest innovations in that field certainly, yet one of it's biggest initial investors may have underestimated it's principal and now is out on it's own without the technology, attempting to get others to re-engineer it's own version of the 'air car'. Perhaps one day with the support of everyone, we can finally enjoy such energy saving devices, once we change the mindset of corporations from greed to do what is best for mankind. You are welcome to visit the online Think Tank I founded and share your knowledge with others as well.
The PVC Bike Guy Comment by The PVC Bike Guy on September 19, 2008 at 8:35pm
Hi all,

I received this today thought you might won't to see

Air Vehicle Update

Recently you emailed us at Zero Pollution Motors asking that we keep you up-to-date on the ultra-eco-friendly Air Vehicle and our progress bringing it to the U.S. You will find information about what's happening at the development plant in Nice, France, including a video showing inventor Guy Negre road testing the new economy vehicle with the extended range engine in it.

When will the 4-door, six-seat US model be available? We expect it to be manufactured in the US in 2010. We originally planned to take reservations for the vehicle in 2008 but now plan do so in 2009 as we now anticipate demand to far exceed the early production capability.

So, please read on. We hope you will enjoy these stories ? the first of many we want to share with you as we get ready to introduce the Air Vehicle.

Shiva Vencat
www.zeropollutionmotors.us

Air Vehicle Investment Opportunities? ... We have had many, many inquiries from folks all over the country asking how they can invest in the compressed air vehicle. We have developed the concept of investment clubs that will allow small and large investors to participate. Find out more.

Air Vehicle's Biggest Fan? ... Yes, we think we have met him. His name is Paul Ryan and Paul visited us at the New York Car Show, traveling all the way from Toronto. Paul has also visited inventor Guy Negre?s development facility in France. He has captured all this on some remarkable video that can be seen on his fan site: www.catvolution.com

• 2-door Economy Car Now Undergoing Road Testing

• MDI and Zero Pollution Motors Unveil MDI's New 2-door Economy Car at the New York Auto Show

• New Engine Increases Air Car Range and Speed: How Does It Do It?

• Air Vehicle Entered in X Prize Contest to Build Super-efficient Auto

• MDI's Air Vehicle in the News
New York Times: Air Car Blows Back Into Picture
Popular Mechanics: Air-Powered Car Coming to U.S.
BBC News: India's Tata Motors Backs Air Car

Reuters: Air Car Set for Take off in India
Time: Time Magazine's Best Inventions of 2007

2-door Economy Car Now Undergoing Road Testing

At the New York car show in March this year, MDI and Zero Pollution Motors unveiled MDI's new economy/utility 2-door vehicle. At the time, MDI's new compressed air engine had not been fully tested in the design. Testing has since started and reports from the MDI factory in Nice, France are that the engine and vehicle are performing to expectations

MDI and ZPM Unveil MDI's New 2-door Economy Car at the New York Auto Show

Economy model at
New York Car Show
MDI Group, the French developer of the compressed air vehicle, and Zero Pollution Motors (ZPM) showcased MDI's newest compressed air vehicle at this year's New York International Auto Show (NYIAS) today, March 20. The vehicle was unveiled for for its first public appearance ever at the Automotive X PRIZE (AXP) booth at the show (see pictures).

The economy/utility model will be produced by MDI for sale in France and elsewhere in 2009 at a price of beginning at around $5,000-$6,000 for the basic model.

New Supplemental Energy Engine Increases Air Car Range and Speed: How Does It Do It?

ACORD What is so great about the new supplemental-energy compressed air engine (CAE)? It will dramatically increase both range and speed -- to the tune of 800 miles and up to 100 mph -- while producing much lower emissions than a conventional car engine of the same power.

How does it work? Guy Negre and his MDI team have essentially taken the mono-energy engine used in the Air Car prototype and added a supplementary energy source of either fossil fuel (petrol, diesel or LPG) or biofuel (vegetable oil, alcohol, biodiesel or even gas) to heat the compressed air inside a "heating chamber" as it enters the engine. This process increases the volume of the compressed air. The result is more sustained power to the engine, increasing vehicle range and speed.

The heating chamber kicks in when the vehicle's speed exceeds 35 miles per hour or when the compressed-air tanks are empty. When in fuel mode, the car's moto-alternator refills the tank with compressed air as the vehicle moves. The new CAE is expected to propel the MDI air car models at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour, produce a range of over 800 miles from an 8-gallon tank of gas, and a fuel efficiency of 106 MPG equivalent when in fuel-mode.

Of course, when operating on supplementary fuel the dual-energy engine -- unlike the mono-energy engine -- does produce C02 emissions, but very little: only 0.158lbs of CO2 per mile. This is up to 4 times less than the average vehicle and 2 times less than the cleanest vehicle available today. (Toyota Prius 07 Emissions: 0.34 lbs of CO2 per mile. Source: www.hybridcars.com)

Air Vehicle Entered in $10m X Prize Contest to Build Super-efficient Autos

MDI & ZPM Official Contenders
Early in 2007, Zero Pollution Motors and MDI were among the first to submit a vehicle to compete for the $10 million Progressive Automotive X Prize. We recognized that the X Prize was exactly what was needed to help move automobile production toward more fuel-efficient, environmentally friendly alternatives. ZPM president Shiva Vencat applauded the X Prize "for challenging the industry to embrace new ways of thinking and breakthrough technology that will lessen its impact on the health of the planet." We saw the Progressive Automotive X PRIZE as presenting the ideal opportunity for a vehicle powered by compressed air technology to be evaluated and recognized as a viable alternative for the automobile industry - one that addresses head on the issues of oil dependence and climate change caused by CO2 emissions.

The Progressive Automotive X Prize has since received widespread coverage and praise for its initiative and Progressive insurance has announced a $10 million sponsorship of the prize. A series of road races will be conducted beginning in 2009 that will pit more than 120 teams, from 28 states and 17 countries, against each other. They will compete for their share of a $10 million prize purse, which will be awarded to those that can design and build production-capable, 100 MPGe (miles per gallon energy equivalent) vehicles that people will want to buy and that meet market needs for price, size, capability, safety and performance.

More at www.progressiveautoxprize.com

Feedback on any content published here is welcomed and can be directed to mediarelations@zeropollutionmotors.us


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The PVC Bike Guy Comment by The PVC Bike Guy on September 17, 2008 at 12:20pm
I'd Like to no WHEN any of the items being wrote about will come to the market? or are we just kidding our self? so far it's the latter!!!!
Lawrence Murray Comment by Lawrence Murray on September 10, 2008 at 7:28pm
Pnumatic piston style engines are not the best use of liquid air. Liquid nitrogen is cold enough for a new superconductor electric motor and the expantion is better used in a turbine collector. This is the type of engine I have designed that can be seen at CoolingEarth.org. The liquid nitrogen is best made while cleaning up the atmosphere.
Lawrence
 

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