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Comment by Cheryl Jackson on August 5, 2008 at 1:37pm

Hi Sam,
I agree with you to set a meeting for our area in the next couple of weeks. Midtown is a great location to start. After T. Boone began talking about his plan three weeks ago we saw a significant drop in gas prices at the pump, so let's keep the momentum going. Thanks.
Cheryl

Comment by Sam Fleet on August 4, 2008 at 6:08am

Good Morning all, I wanted to take a moment to get more organized here in Atlanta. We, to my knowledge, have not had our meeting. I have decided to post myself as leader on the group state leaders. If someone else is in an organizing position, just let me know, I would be happy to assist. If not, please let's start some conversation. I would like a meeting set for our area in the next couple of weeks. We had previously discussed meeting in Buckhead or Midtown, but like I said, I haven't heard anything else about it. Please contact me if you are interested in organizing our effort here in GA. Thanks! Sam

Comment by David B Waldrop on August 2, 2008 at 10:10pm

I failed to properly add the links in my comment below. They are as follows:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147
http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/lindsey-williams-on-alex-jones-72808-t

Comment by David B Waldrop on August 2, 2008 at 10:03pm

This is not really a comment. Recently while researching the "Water4Gas " information, I ran across a link for a presentation made by a man named Lindsey Williams that link is below as is a nother link for an interview by talk show host Alex Jones. I highly suggest that you watch both of these, Williams first then Jones. The Jones was within the last two weeks. WE may very well be paying four dollars per gallon simply to support the IMF and the World Bank. From everything I have found while doing research on this, there really is no shortage of oil at this time. Certainly not to the degree that would cause speculators to drive up the price of crude to $147 per barrel. Now I also feel that we need to get away from oil as far as we can as soon as possible. But as I indicated in one of my earlier responses, I don't simply want to be an uneducated cheerleader doing for Pickins or any one else their bidding. We all owe it to ourselves to do our home work. The Gull island find is real from what I have determined yet our government will not let it be developed. I am going to try and run this by Newt Gingrich and his "American Solutions" when I return from Iraq in a couple of weeks. I am currently there as a contract pilot in support of our troops. This is very interesting and scary if true. Please take the time to view this information.

Comment by Fred Fox on August 2, 2008 at 11:42am

AJC: "Ga Power Plans More 'Green' Capacity" - fyi > front page of 8-2-08 Business Section &/or link is:
http://ajc.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=Ga.+Power+plans+more+%27green%27+capacity&expire=&urlID=30133827&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ajc.com%2Fbusiness%2Fcontent%2Fprintedition%2F2008%2F08%2F02%2Fpower.html&partnerID=550

Comment by Fred Fox on July 29, 2008 at 11:25am

JD ("GEORGIA NEEDS ITS UTILITY COMPANIES TO HAVE A VISIONARY LONG-RANGE ENERGY PLAN") - Right, and, at least east of the Mississippi, with the exception of Duke Power, they are largely locked in a fatal embrace with fossil fuels.... sooner of later they will have to gravitate, one way or another, to non-finite fuel sources, or they will actually lose their own market. (it happened to the IT/Mainframe sector, MaBell/Telephony, etc).. cause, over time, non-finite energy sources (e.g. solar and wind) will be available at lower cost per kilowatt hour and installable on a distributed basis.
Fred.

Comment by JD Polk on July 26, 2008 at 9:54am

GEORGIA NEEDS ITS UTILITY COMPANIES TO HAVE A VISIONARY LONG-RANGE ENERGY PLAN
Fuel supplies are essential to Georgia for lighting our homes and schools and running our industries. Yet there are problems with the current methods of generating energy in our state and current proposals by utility companies to meet our future energy demand. Much of Georgia Power’s proposed 20-year resource plan is a business-as-usual approach that, if adopted, will pose serious problems for Georgians in the future.

Our Energy Security and Reliability is at Stake.
Businesses and the Public Pay the Heavy Price.
Air Quality and Human Health Suffer.
Water for Coal and Nuclear Plants Competes with Cities, Businesses and Farms.

HOW YOU CAN HELP:
The PSC will make a decision by mid-July. Please do the following:

Please write a letter about your concerns to Chairman Bobby Baker, Reference: Docket #24505, 244 Washington Street, S.W., Atlanta, GA 30334.
Or call Chairman Bobby Baker and the other commissioners (Chuck Eaton, Doug Everett, Angela Speir and Stan Wise) at (404) 656-4501 or (800) 282-5813.
WHY THE GEORGIA PSC SHOULD REQUIRE GEORGIA POWER TO PUT ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND RENEWABLE ENERGY AS A TOP PRIORITY:
Energy efficiency and renewable energy protect against increasing fossil fuel and natural gas prices
Hedge against energy supply shortages and disruptions
Avoid a growing dependence on natural gas
Reduce harmful air pollution and excessive water usage
Create local energy markets and increase employment
Avoid the high costs of building new conventional electric supplies.
Our Energy Security and Reliability is at Stake.
Currently, most of the energy used to power our homes and businesses comes from outside Georgia and the Southeast. There are no petroleum, natural gas, or uranium mines and reserves in the Southeast. According to the Energy Information Administration, Georgia’s electric power sector spent approximately $1.5 billion buying out of state coal and natural gas in 2003.(1)

Businesses and the Public Pay the Heavy Price.
Georgia and its utilities lag behind much of the country in investments in energy efficiency. There is a lot of wasted energy that all utility customers must pay for when the utility builds more transmission lines and power plants than are necessary. As fuel costs increase, consumers pay even more for this wasted energy.

Air Quality and Human Health Suffer.
Our current energy supply causes a great deal of damage to our health. Here are a few examples of the effects:

Soot and smog-forming nitrogen oxides are created from fossil fuel plants and engines. These can harm children’s lung development and lead to asthma attacks, heart attacks and stroke.
Coal fired power plants release air-borne mercury that ends up in lakes, rivers and streams. Neurological damage is linked with eating mercury-laden fish.
Tritium, a radioactive isotope of hydrogen that is produced at all nuclear reactors, acts like water in the body and can pass across the placenta to affect a developing fetus.
Water for Coal and Nuclear Plants Competes with Cities, Businesses and Farms.
Coal and nuclear power plants are heavy water users. In 2001 nuclear Plant Vogtle used approximately 64 million gallons of water a day from the Savannah River and only returned 21 million gallons per day. Coal plant Scherer withdrew 59 million gallons of water a day from Lake Juliette (2). These and other fossil fuel and nuclear plants compete with local industries—from the carpet industries of Dalton to the peach growers in Tifton—for much needed water. The burden that our energy system places on the state’s water supplies will become even more severe if Georgia Power’s proposed plans for new power plants are carried out.


GEORGIA’S UTILITY REVIEW PROCESS:
Georgia law requires that Georgia Power submit an Integrated Resource Plan (IRP) to the Georgia Public Service Commission (PSC) every three years for approval. The PSC is charged to review the company’s plan and to approve it or require revisions.

The centerpiece of the Georgia Power plan:

Build new nuclear reactors at Plant Vogtle near Augusta which would divert massive amounts of water away from the Savannah River, competing with other needs, as well as create more radioactive waste that cannot be disposed of safely;
Expand and upgrade its transmission lines to support several new power plants and increased electricity demand;
Build a new gas pipeline through properties from Union City to Smyrna.
The secondary part of the plan includes:

Minimal energy efficiency measures through “pilot programs” with limited investment;
Develop only about 200 MW of new renewable energy that amounts to less than 1% of Georgia Power’s current energy capacity (most of the company’s “green power” is currently landfill gas).
To view Georgia Power’s proposed plan and responses by independent experts, go to http://www.psc.state.ga.us/ (enter #24505 in the docket search box, and view documents filed on Jan. 31, 2007 by the company and documents filed by other parties on May 4 and May 7).

Sources:
(1) Energy Information Administration, Electric Power Sector Price and Expenditures Estimates by Source, 2003, Georgia. http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/states/sep_prices/eu/pr_eu_ga.html
(2) Georgia Environmental Protection Division, Georgia Power Water Use, June 2002.


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Comment by Fred Fox on July 26, 2008 at 7:31am

Vipul - Based upon NREL.gov and the wind pages (you will find where in GA we have wind generation potential and not), in summary we are good (rating per NREL of "2" up to a "5") at about 2000 feet above sea level, and then on the GA coast. Elsewhere we are "1."

Comment by David B Waldrop on July 24, 2008 at 4:41am

No comments until I become much better informed as to the bill that is being pushed at this time. Does any one have this in a user friendly, readable condensed version. What will this bill offer to the big energy producers? They stand to make huge profits off what I have heard of this bill so far. I an asking if huge tax credits etc are really necessary. If approved, will this bill open the door for a whole new Natural Gas sales market? Please don't misunderstand my question. I have no problem with business making a profit. I do have a problem if we the people have to fund this through tax incentives which vertually eliminate and or reduce their cost/risk to near zero while they stand to make a killing. Like I asked earlier I would love to know what this bill THE PICKINS PLAN is asking us to help get passed provides and accomplishes. I am all in favor of any and all means to become energy self sufficient, that's why I joined up the same as you have. But at the same time I want to know the facts and not become just an uneducated cheerleader.

Comment by G Scott Shirley on July 23, 2008 at 9:41pm

I live in Acworth and would really like to find some North Metro folks to meet with. I would not mind hosting a Pickens House Party but can't this weekend. I have to work. I could possibly do it the the weekend of August 1st. Any interest?

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