Az. sun and wind farmers

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Comment by Jeff Hulgan on September 26, 2008 at 11:43pm

John. He all need to work to make solar a viable source of power in Arizona, Not sure where you live but the way APS runs there system is if you put peek power into there system you can have it back at peek time, non peek will cost you the standard non peek rate. What we need to do is make the power company’s give people that supply them with power a standard rate day and night, that way all the energy i'm giving them during the day I can get back at night and will have a zero bill.
I have a diesel and the fuel prices are out of control, I try to use biodiesel whenever I can.

Comment by John Moats on September 6, 2008 at 6:41pm

Hi all,

Well its been a long hot month here. One thing Az. is not short on is sunshine. We avg. 6.5 hrs. a day in the summer. In the winter we only go down to 5.75 usable hours of solar radiance. In short not going solar here is dumber than a box of rocks. After the initial investment your power is free. Maybe even getting paid by the utility. I own a small solar business. My website is terrapinsolar.com Please call anytime at (928)337-2600

Comment by BurgessKJ on August 25, 2008 at 3:23pm

Great energy. I'm not sure what you want: zillions marching or non-conformity. I wish you all the success in the world.

I am a practical Engineer, so I REALLY don't like gibber jabber either.
Boone's simple plan beats 50 years of failed 'environmental' approaches to alternative energy. That's really why I'm here.

Your one person, or three CAN make a difference. I just prefer better odds. Call it Army training, and leave it at that if you will.

Sometimes it takes more than that though. We are ALL mad as heck, and not going to take it any more.We will have several meeting shortly, and see what positive, and practical results come of that.
Certain jobs are best done with the unstoppable inertia of large masses of folks, and we would benefit from your participation.

Don't worry, if the Pickens Plan doesn't work, I'll be off-grid soon enough too, pointing the finger at power monopolies and useless govt alike. If PP does not work, most of the country will be out of a job anyway.

Comment by John Moats on August 21, 2008 at 9:55pm

Hi,
I started this group because no one seems to want to do anything but go back and forth on the web about this theory and that theory. It takes concrete action to make changes. Not gibber gabber. We should organize a march or something. Get visable! We could have a zillion people on here but until we show our strength in numbers were noboby. You can take your critical mass and stick it where the sun don't shine. I'm not a conformist. I don't do what the masses are prevalent in doing. I'm a rebel with a cause.
If you want to join the other group go ahead and do so. I'm a part of that as well. Action speaks louder than words. I say we organize a march to the capitol and let our voices be heard. Of course we could sit around and create critical mass synergy. I don't know about you but I'm pissed off about having to pay $4.25 a gallon for fuel. I'm pissed off that were buying that gas from countries who hate our guts and kill our young, brave men and women in uniform. We need change and 11 letter words are not going to get us there. Our voices, petitions and phonecalls might.

Turtle John

Comment by BurgessKJ on August 14, 2008 at 11:59am

Sometimes parallel development is good, but not always.

This group is a duplication of the effort already underway in the Arizona Group. Can we consolidate membership with the largest (the other one), and eliminate this one to avoid missed communication, and promote critical mass synergy?