Wise Gas, Inc has begun operations. www.wisegasinc.com

Wow, what a week, anyone that has ever said "History repeats itself" is pointing at the NGV market. In 1998, there were 5 conversion shops, 60 NGV refueling sites and 1,929 Natural Gas Vehicles in Florida. Today, we are reviving the past to give economic life for the future. We have spent the last few months researching the business opportunity, governmental acceptance, opposition and roadblocks to making this venture a success. What we have found is complete and unwavering acceptance. Whether for environmental or economic reasons, everyone is interested in Natural Gas Vehicles. We have determined that widespread acceptance is not going to be easy, but it IS possible. The first step is having a public fueling station in Florida. That day is coming. We will be announcing in the next few weeks when and where. Simultaneously, there has to be vehicles to use the station. While we feel there is a number of "underground" NGVs, we stand by the law that any conversion must be EPA approved and we will be announcing an EPA approved conversion shop opening in the next few weeks. New and exisitng vehicles was our next mission and we have had numerous opportunities to bring vehicles in to Florida, again to be announced shortly.

The end result of this week, barring a hurricane, our technician will be flying to Canada to receive the FuelMaker and Phill training.. We have dozens of meetings scheduled to assess fleet opportunities, government options and public station placement. And we should be able to announce several events that we are very excited about.

Keep the faith and keep us in your thoughts.

Please visit our site at www.wisegasinc.com and give your feedback.

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by Andy-Paul on August 19, 2008 at 4:21pm

I think I might be the guy who gave Dave the wrong impression about whether or not CNG is about to become obsolete. The short answer is no.

Keep plugging away, and we'll worry about ANG vs CNG when the former really shows up in the marketplace.

andy-paul

Permalink Reply by Dave on August 19, 2008 at 6:59pm

No, no,
Andy-Paul you've been very helpful and informative. Your comments will help a lot of members, please continue them!
Dave

Permalink Reply by Edward Oliver on September 3, 2008 at 2:27pm

Good Luck Jeff
Really like the website.
Let me know when you start Franchising efforts in S. California.
edward.oliver@gmail.com

Permalink Reply by Tom Sewell on September 15, 2008 at 9:06pm

Jeff there is room in the CNG business come on in. It is by far not a get rich quick business. You spend 50%of yout time telling people why you cant convert their car. 20% telling people what cars you can convert. 10% getting suppliers to call you back. 10% actually converting cars. 5% on BS then 5% going to the bank.

I hope every thing works out well. Call if we can help.
Tom Sewell
www.tulsagastech.com

Permalink Reply by Jeff Greene on September 16, 2008 at 6:54am

Tom,

Thanks for the feedback. Seems like our numbers are starting to resemble yours....lol...however, we are doing a few things to change that. I look forward to working with you in the future. Paula with FuelMaker has told me good things about you.

Permalink Reply by Mark Feagins on December 3, 2008 at 7:55pm

We should be able to get FORD and GM conversion kits.
They have the technology because they produce dual-fuel cars overseas:

Ford produces CNG cars in Russia and India, but not the U.S.

http://in.rediff.com/money/2006/jul/19ford.htm

Ford-Europe produces CNG cars available in Germany, Italy, Austria, Netherlands & Sweden……. but not the U.S.

http://www.forbesautos.com/news/headlines/2008/september/fdc-natura...

GM-Opel

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/11/gm-opel-to-intr.html

Permalink Reply by Oscar on December 3, 2008 at 10:14pm

GM 2008 6.0L engine kits are available. Parts are through the parts manufacturers. Impco, Technocarb etc.

Since the certifications expire 12/31 after the 1st of the year new certs will be available.

The EPA is the big stumbling block to bring these kits to market in the US. A one time certification for an engine family would at least let the manufacturers create a production environment. If they fear not selling all the kits before 12/31 every year they won't certify them.

Certification can cost $250,000, divide that among 100 kits and you add that $2500 to a kit. Now, what if you only sell 75 kits. OUCH! Now add the actual value of the parts and say a $3000 tank. Installation labor on top and who will spend the cash? Now add refueling equipment too.