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elecric car is now and forever

Location: salt lake utah
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Latest Activity: Nov. 30, 2008

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Ernie Kleckner

Gas prices are down, is our need for electric car?

Started by Ernie Kleckner Nov. 21, 2008.

FredDC

Who killed the electric car? 7 Replies

Started by FredDC. Last reply by FredDC Nov. 12, 2008.

daniel faust

electric cars now 16 Replies

Started by daniel faust. Last reply by daniel faust Aug. 10, 2008.

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Faye Comment by Faye on November 29, 2008 at 9:33pm

Please visit www.FAREnergy.org - The Florida Alliance for Renewable Energy would like to make Florida a leader in solar energy. Since 1991, Germany, Spain, Denmark, and over 40 other nations, states, and provinces, have pioneered legislation that have proven to promote the fastest, cheapest, and widest growth of renewable energy. In many of these countries these policies are called "Feed-In Tariffs" (FITs). Producers of renewable energy are paid a premium rate or "tariff" for each kilowatt of energy they "feed into" the grid. Here in North America FITs are being called, "Renewable Energy Payments" (REPs). The name has changed but the fundamental principles of these policies stay the same: Everyone who produces renewable energy is guaranteed that they can connect to the power grid and sell their energy to their utility company. There is no limit to the amount of renewable energy that can be sold to utility companies.
Utility companies sign 15-20 year contracts with all their renewable energy producers. All contracts are transparent and open for inspection.

The contracts include long-term agreed upon prices that the utility companies will pay for the energy they buy. The prices are set high enough to be an incentive to new producers and for existing producers to expand their production capacities. Prices vary according to the source of the energy (i.e, sun, wind, water, bio-mass, etc.) and the size of the energy-producing installation.

The utility companies can recoup their increased costs of paying higher prices for renewable energy by spreading these costs among all their customers.

An Independent Review Board is established by the government that periodically sets the prices and terms for new contracts.

How do REPs work?

Renewable Energy Payments are the mechanisms or instruments at the heart of specific state, provincial or national renewable energy policies. REPs are incentives for homeowners, farmers, businesses, etc., to become producers of renewable energy, or to increase their production of renewable energy. As such, they increase our overall production and use of renewable energy, and decrease our consumption and burning of fossil fuels.

Thank you! Happy Holidays!

Faye Roller - Administartive Director
Florida Alliance for Renewable Energy
1-888-501-FARE
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Shavi Mahtani Comment by Shavi Mahtani on November 19, 2008 at 11:52am
As a retail development company installing Solar PV on our shopping centers, we've toyed with the idea of having Electric-Car recharge stations available for customers. Park & charge your vehicle while you shop or eat! Unfortunately, not a lot of electric cars are available or out on the market yet.

But it IS an idea worth keeping on the back burner....
FredDC Comment by FredDC on November 12, 2008 at 10:01am
This is from About.com
Average cost of electric vehicle vs gasoline: Less than 1/2

Electricity Basics
Electricity used to power vehicles is generally provided by the electricity grid and stored in the vehicle's batteries. Fuel cells are being explored as a way to use electricity generated on board the vehicle to power electric motors. Unlike batteries, fuel cells convert chemical energy from hydrogen into electricity.

Vehicles that run on electricity have no tailpipe emissions. Emissions that can be attributed to electric vehicles are generated in the electricity production process at the power plant.

Home recharging of electric vehicles (EVs) is as simple as plugging them into an electric outlet. Electricity fueling costs for electric vehicles are reasonable compared to gasoline, especially if consumers take advantage of off-peak rates. However, electricity costs vary across the U.S. depending on location, type of generation, and time of use. For average U.S. electricity prices, see the Energy Information Administration's Residential Electricity Prices: A Consumer's Guide. Many states, particularly California, have public access electric outlets at libraries, shopping centers, hospitals, and businesses.

Vehicles with direct current (DC) electric systems get about 0.4 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per mile, while those with more efficient alternating current (AC) systems get about 0.174 to 0.288 kWh per mile. If your home electricity rate is $0.13 per kWh, it would cost about $0.05 per mile for DC operation and $0.03 cents per mile for AC operation. You would pay $0.12 per mile for gasoline in a vehicle that gets 25 miles per gallon when gasoline sells for $3 per gallon.
Rhonda Brown Comment by Rhonda Brown on October 15, 2008 at 8:01pm
There is a company here in California that is manufacturing electric cars, trucks, scooters & bikes. Check them out. They have vehicle on the street right now.

http://www.zapworld.com/

There's a brand new dealership, Chico Electric Cars, on Nord Ave. in Chico, CA. They are celebrating there grand opening on Saturday, October 18th.
Gerald G Flood Comment by Gerald G Flood on October 7, 2008 at 5:12pm
Check this out for ACTUAL facts, not rumors or conspiracies: www.batterypoweronline.com
It would be great if people making claims about anything put the actual website or reference that can be verified. Let's all try!
Joseph Keating Comment by Joseph Keating on September 28, 2008 at 2:34pm
Jay Leno has a website, Jay Leno's garage , where he has 2 videos of rides in electric cars. One is the Tesla and the other is a 1909 baker.
Joseph Keating Comment by Joseph Keating on September 11, 2008 at 8:29pm
Mr. Pickens ....Can a dvd be made of your presentation at Salt Lake? I would buy it , as I think others would, and show it locally at schools, libraries, or where ever I could get a crowd to see it.
Donna L. Hill Powell Comment by Donna L. Hill Powell on September 10, 2008 at 11:51pm
Hello Daniel. Electric cars. We want them. Who has them? How much do they cost? Any answers?
Donna
hbhansen Comment by hbhansen on August 12, 2008 at 10:41pm
Hi Daniel,
Why not join the main Utah Group with this discussion and have over 100 members join in on it.
If we just keep 1 main group and keep the sub groups within it we can communicate better.
Thanks.
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Joseph Keating Comment by Joseph Keating on August 12, 2008 at 6:34pm
In Shelton Ct. there is a start up that converts small cars to plug-in hybrids. Explained at their website. Search for poulsen hybrids.
Maybe some cities or towns could support this. Seems like the right kind of vehicle for them.
Side note : About 25 years ago in Athol, Ma. a start-up was making an electric called the 'Lectric Leopard.
Joe
 

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