WE GET THE GOVERNMENT WE DESERVE
Is it true?
Do we get the government that we deserve?
And if so...why do you think we deserve the government that we have?
In the opening dissertation on this group's main page it is written:
"They have worded their campaign election laws as to hinder a 3rd parties equal participation.
"They have ignored the will and happiness of the American people to better themselves.
"They have sold their office to the highest bidder to better themselves.
"They have altered the American economy to benefit themselves and others.
"They have allowed our great country to become dependent on foreign countries to better themselves and others.
"They have failed to protect our borders to benefit themselves and others.
"They have governed with special interest and are governed by special interest to benefit themselves and others.
"They have squandered the power given to them by the majority.
"They have abandon the American labor force .
"They have written tax laws with loop-holes for the wealthy to benefit themselves and others.
"They have acted in a manner unbecoming the office they hold.
"They have let the tort system operate unabated to benefit themselves and others.
"They have protected their offices from the American people to their benefit.
"They have ruled with fear and hatred to suppress their fellow man."
Again, if we do diserve the government we have, and as the points cited above indicate, it is not a government that one could even genrously call constructive...WHY? HOW? did we ever get to a place where we deserved such a government as this?
One of the many hats that I wear is that of a carpenter. In carrying out my duties as a carpenter I encounter a diversity of problems. And in the course of coming up with solutions to these problems it is not uncommon for me to assign the cause of the problem to an incorrect source i.e., an incorrect why. However, I do not realize that I have chosen an incorrect why or even question it (I'm so certian that I've got the correct solution for the problem) until I enact my solution and discover that the problem did not resolve. In other words, I did not have the real WHY. And...until I am able to spot what is really the problem (sometimes it's so obvious that I can't see it and sometimes it's something that I would've never even imagined) the problem will not resolve.
Why do we, the American people, deserve this government?
If we have not isolated the real WHY, then we will not be able to resolve the problem. Yes, we could come close but close does not a solution make. If we were digging for gold and missed the vein by an eigth of an inch we still missed it. In fact, if we are attempting to solve an incorrect WHY we may only serve to compound the complexities of the problem thereby only enhancing its endurance and formidablity.
Now I am going to ask four very difficult questions that I do not have the answers to but perhaps we can put our collective consciousness to work here and make some discoveries. Here are the questions:
1. What is the exact problem that we are trying to solve with the Energy Party?
2. What are we identifying to be the real WHY that is the source of this problem?
3. What is our solution to this problem?
4. How will our solution resolve the problem?
Thank You.
Monte
Do we get the government that we deserve?
And if so...why do you think we deserve the government that we have?
In the opening dissertation on this group's main page it is written:
"They have worded their campaign election laws as to hinder a 3rd parties equal participation.
"They have ignored the will and happiness of the American people to better themselves.
"They have sold their office to the highest bidder to better themselves.
"They have altered the American economy to benefit themselves and others.
"They have allowed our great country to become dependent on foreign countries to better themselves and others.
"They have failed to protect our borders to benefit themselves and others.
"They have governed with special interest and are governed by special interest to benefit themselves and others.
"They have squandered the power given to them by the majority.
"They have abandon the American labor force .
"They have written tax laws with loop-holes for the wealthy to benefit themselves and others.
"They have acted in a manner unbecoming the office they hold.
"They have let the tort system operate unabated to benefit themselves and others.
"They have protected their offices from the American people to their benefit.
"They have ruled with fear and hatred to suppress their fellow man."
Again, if we do diserve the government we have, and as the points cited above indicate, it is not a government that one could even genrously call constructive...WHY? HOW? did we ever get to a place where we deserved such a government as this?
One of the many hats that I wear is that of a carpenter. In carrying out my duties as a carpenter I encounter a diversity of problems. And in the course of coming up with solutions to these problems it is not uncommon for me to assign the cause of the problem to an incorrect source i.e., an incorrect why. However, I do not realize that I have chosen an incorrect why or even question it (I'm so certian that I've got the correct solution for the problem) until I enact my solution and discover that the problem did not resolve. In other words, I did not have the real WHY. And...until I am able to spot what is really the problem (sometimes it's so obvious that I can't see it and sometimes it's something that I would've never even imagined) the problem will not resolve.
Why do we, the American people, deserve this government?
If we have not isolated the real WHY, then we will not be able to resolve the problem. Yes, we could come close but close does not a solution make. If we were digging for gold and missed the vein by an eigth of an inch we still missed it. In fact, if we are attempting to solve an incorrect WHY we may only serve to compound the complexities of the problem thereby only enhancing its endurance and formidablity.
Now I am going to ask four very difficult questions that I do not have the answers to but perhaps we can put our collective consciousness to work here and make some discoveries. Here are the questions:
1. What is the exact problem that we are trying to solve with the Energy Party?
2. What are we identifying to be the real WHY that is the source of this problem?
3. What is our solution to this problem?
4. How will our solution resolve the problem?
Thank You.
Monte
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Permalink Reply by Kelly Crosby on -
The answer is simple - APATHY and the sheep mentality - the masses BELIEVE whatever the media tells them - proof was in the last campaign...
If you haven't read the narrative on the evolution of Democracy, you should.
We were apathetic...
As soon as any government begins to vote themselves largesse from the treasury - the downfall of democracy begins.
It started after the Great Depression and has spiraled out of control ever since with one democrat/socialist program after another until we have reached the Apathy to Dependency stage.
Now there is a HUGE majority of people already dependent on the government and unable or unwilling to break free...it's just easier to sit back...
We have been careless, lazy, and spoiled and did not put due diligence in holding our congress accountable...now it may be too late.
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Permalink Reply by Tracy Barber on -
very well said, kelly!
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Permalink Reply by Monte Smith on -
Kelly,
The mantra of the apathetic person is, "I don't care." They appear to be static but if you get close to one you will soon discover that they are far from being static. Apathy sucks! It literally sucks. Apathy is in motion, albeit slow motion, it is in motion. It is going down. The goal and intention of apathy is the ultimate succumb...death. It is in a very big hurry to get to death and end the misery of it all. And it wants company. If you get too close to apathy you will notice that it begins to tug at you and attempts in all manner of ways to have you come and join it. That being noted, apathy is NOT the answer. Apathy is a result. The effect of a cause. Apathy is not inherent in a human being. Therefore, the WHY lies somewhere before the condition. In other words, the question to ask is "What caused the apathy to occur?"
If the answer truly was Apathy then we could fix it. We have to look deeper.
Monte
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Permalink Reply by Kelly Crosby on
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Then is it pure, unadulaterated, LAZINESS? Is that what makes most people decide, as the Constitution says, to "endure such evils?" To accept living on welfare and being completely dependent on the government to the point that as long as it continues to feed, clothe, and provide you healthcare and all the 'entitlements' you think you have a RIGHT to...is that what makes so many people not just ACCEPT the lean toward socialism RATHER than get out there and fight for something better?
Or is it, as in my case originally, the POWERLESSNESS that you feel as an American citizen to fight the corrupt government that has raced so far out of control...?
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Permalink Reply by Lainey Howard on -
I used to be apathetic about politics (not so much that I wouldn't research a little and vote) because I was disappointed and disheartened. Voting for what I thought of as the lesser of the evils did not make me feel very warm and fuzzy about my choice. Some people need a cause or a movement or a person that they can support without regret. They need someone or something that they can actually believe in. I think the Pickens movement is a good example of that. It grew like gainbusters until critics began to try to discredit the plan and Mr. Pickens.
Of course there will always be critics of any successful movement but that shouldn't stop us from standing up and casting out our voices. Let's give the people something that they can get behind and support without buyers' remorse.
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Permalink Reply by Monte Smith on
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Kelly,
I have been meaning to get back to this discussion and add yet another perspective toward the end of eventually spotting the real WHY as I described in the opening of this discussion.
Apathy, as you pointed out, is a factor but apathy is a severe condition and any unfortunate person who has fallen into such an emotional cavity is not able to make much of an impact on the life around them. That is, of course, unless others get to close then such a relationship can be quite unhealthy. Just as a side note about the apathetics...if you could actually have a genuine conversation with such a person you would eventually discover that their apathy is directly tied to once having and being passionate about a prupose(s) then in their attempt to fulfill that purpose they failed miserably and like any trap holds its prey, their failure became the trap that held them and life suddenly became very dull and pointless.
Greed was also mentioned and greed too is a factor but I do not see it being the "why". I have never met a person yet in my 57 (almost 58) years that couldn't fall into that tar pit.
No, what I think happened was that somewhere along the line the American people became disenfranchised from being able to actively play and live the American Dream. I do not know exactly where or how that happened along the American historical track of time. But, I imagine that any good history buff who were looking to discover such an occurrence could do so. Whether it was a result of intentional social engineering by some mastermind group or whether the populace, in their incorrect decisions and perhaps a desire to be "taken care of" did it to themselves. I just don't know. The point is though, that I do see this as the case and as it gradually played out "we the people" moved more and more into being spectators of the American Dream rather than playing the game.
The American Dream game board was divided into those who made the game, those who enforced the game, those who played the game, those who watched the game (the lion's share of the populace) and those who were so low in this caste system that they couldn't even watch the game were the broken pieces used and abused in what ever manner anyone wished to use them. But, in any event, each level of participation in the playing of the American Dream, even the broken pieces, became an industry in and of itself. In the final analysis, though, I believe that the real WHY will be discovered to be infectious spectatorism.
The Romans have reincarnated and tonight gather around the coliseum to watch the modern day gladiators play in the Super Bowl. Things have changed! But when you look under all of the technological advancements that have been made since the Roman Empire....life and what motivates life hasn't changed all that much.
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Permalink Reply by Jim on -
Kelly
Part of this is people think politicians know more than they do about running the country so they don't speak up or let their thoughts be known. They need to tell their congressmen, state legislators, governors and the President their views. Let them know we want specific answers about what they are doing.
Watch news programs on cnn and cspan. They will get furious seeing them trying to get around questions that deserve a straight answer. Write to your papers. Get busy telling your friends and neighbors what the politicians are doing and be sure they know it is the people's money they are giving away. These are not loans it is their money.
Hopefully we are not too late.
Get as upset as Ashley Judd is over shooting wolves by helicopter.
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Permalink Reply by Monte Smith on
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Dennis,
1. What is the exact problem that we are trying to solve with the Energy Party?
Dennis: Ending the two party politically corrupt system
Monte: So, the problem that the Energy Party is trying to solve is how to end the two party politically corrupt system?
2. What are we identifying to be the real WHY that is the source of this problem?
Dennis: The two major parties have the power, money and laws to restrict the efforts of a third party movement because they know that we can not unify to any great extent to combat these laws.
Monte: Why is it that the two major parties continue to have the power, money and laws to restrict the efforts of a third party movement?
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Permalink Reply by James Everitt on -
Hey --Army
Barack Obama recorded a personal video message with some exciting news about the future of the grassroots movement that came out of the campaign.
Take a minute to watch the video and get involved:
Change - Get Involved
The challenges our country faces are too great for us to sit on the sidelines.
Thanks
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Permalink Reply by Lainey Howard on
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Greed and a lack of patriotism, putting self first has put us in the situation. We need to break that cycle and introducing a third party who refuses to go the way of the bought and paid can do just that. Of course that's my opinion and I will probably step on a few toes with such a statement. It is imperative that we as a nation decide what we are going to put forth as a new system for satisfying our energy needs and let that get us back into the black (or perhaps at least moving back towards it again.) If we introduce and develop something besides fossil fuels to supply our own energy needs we will have created a new industry within our own borders send billions and billions of money back into our own economy (versus a foreign economy.) This will get everyone buying and selling solidly instead of operating on credit in the red. When we prosper the world prospers and that is a proven fact.
It's time to band together, not break apart. Unity will get us out of this crunch.
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Permalink Reply by Kelly Crosby on
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I agree - it's greed, and laziness. For some a sense of powerlessness - but I do not think it's lack of patriotrism...except possibly in those who fight their own birthright - American.
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Permalink Reply by Fred Mars on -
1. The exact problem is getting the real solutions brought forth. Instead of looking at why, our government prefers the band aid method.
2. The real cause of the problem, the "why" is found in how we produce electricity, who controls that production, and how it has become a menace to our economic stability as a free nation.
3. Our solution is produce electricity without fuels, by making sun and wind the sources used. Make every consumer household a producer of power.
4. Our solution will create jobs and generate economic growth through manufacturing and sales. It will create services for maintenance and repair. It will lower the costs of running a household. By decentralizing the power production and the grid system, it removes a national security threat inside our borders.
There are many more advantages and benefits. With the cost of transportation lower, the cost of goods would lower as well. With an abundance of energy, foods can be grown in controlled environments even in off seasons, to supplement the nutrition choices of the local area. More foods will be available locally grown, which means less is imported. Our Gross Domestic Products go up as imports fall.
With abundant electric, there will be no reason why all electric vehicles cannot be made and sold. This will create new industries to make the parts and accessories for all electric cars and trucks. And our technology can be sold around the world, which will make America the leader in technology once again.
To fix the monetary system we will need to abolish the Federal Reserve System and replace it with a currency that is truly representative of the value of America's economic health and stability, instead of being the cause of so much of the ills of the global economic mess we are all in. It is one of the main reasons that I have been pushing for creation of an Energy Credit Union, where people in the alternative energy industries can place their money and borrow from a source that has the members best interests as the reason to exist. Run it as a not for profit enterprise, where the members deposits are used to finance other members with clean energy projects. And of course we will keep interest rates down as low as possible to stay operating. There will be no bonuses for the CEO or CFO. I was thinking that we could recruit from the retired population, who have the experience and the time to manage and teach the younger employees how to be a clean and green institution, and be part of changing the world in a very significant and positive way.
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