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Matt Merritt

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Nathan Campbell

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Hugh Hemington

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Nelson Camus Comment by Nelson Camus on August 9, 2008 at 4:51pm
thank's
Wayne Dick Jr. Comment by Wayne Dick Jr. on August 9, 2008 at 1:35pm
By the way. . . I'm a terrible typer !
Wayne Dick Jr. Comment by Wayne Dick Jr. on August 9, 2008 at 1:34pm
Luis; Not nly does it polute the air. As you mentioned, But he farmers take an enormous punch financially !
And then the consumers, (you and I) really have to pay for it, as a consumer !
Either way, Terrible idea ! (my opinion)
Luis Garcia                     VA District 9 Leader Comment by Luis Garcia VA District 9 Leader on August 9, 2008 at 12:49pm

The EPA Loves Ethanol
The EPA struck down Texas’ request for a wavier for ethanol production, arguing that U.S. ethanol is an important tool to build energy security and isn’t so bad for the environment, in the Houston Chronicle, the NYT, and the WSJ (sub reqd.). Notes Grist: “Of course, getting a ringing endorsement from [EPA head Stephen] Johnson on environmental grounds is like having Al Capone sign off on the legality of your gun-running operation.”

Wall Street Journal
Luis Garcia                     VA District 9 Leader Comment by Luis Garcia VA District 9 Leader on August 9, 2008 at 11:39am
- It uses 1.3 times the energy it produce Corn Ethanol.
- It uses 40 gallons of water to distill 1 gal of Ethanol.
- Corn Ethanol does more harm to the air, water and land than it could ever alleviate.
- Corn Ethanol as a fuel simply doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Luis Garcia                     VA District 9 Leader Comment by Luis Garcia VA District 9 Leader on August 9, 2008 at 11:30am

Ethanol battle unlikely to fade Livestock, food industries discuss intensifying push to change law
By BRETT CLANTON Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
Aug. 8, 2008, 10:08PM

Efforts to cut or freeze U.S. corn ethanol requirements are unlikely to end with the federal government's denial Thursday of Texas Gov. Rick Perry's plea to waive half of this year's mandate.

Livestock and food industry groups that backed the request already are talking about increased lobbying efforts in Washington to change the law.

Legislation under discussion in the Senate could freeze ethanol quotas at current levels, and at least one governor who supported Perry's request is considering a request of his own.

The efforts highlight the momentum behind calls to revisit a policy that only months ago enjoyed wide support but that more recently has been blamed for higher corn and food prices, environmental abuse and international food shortages.

"Suffice it to say, we'll be working with the Congress and the next administration to revisit all of our food-to-fuel policies," said Scott Faber, vice president for federal affairs for the Grocery Manufacturers Association, a trade group that backed Perry's request.

Perry asked the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to reduce federal ethanol requirements from 9 billion to 4.5 billion gallons in the coming year.

On Thursday the EPA denied the request, saying Perry and other proponents of relaxing the rule did not provide sufficient evidence the law was causing "severe economic harm" to Texas, a requirement needed to justify a waiver.

The law, known as the Renewable Fuel Standard, sets annual quotas for the amount of ethanol and other biofuels that are to be blended into the nation's fuel supply.

...READ ENTIRE ARTICLE HERE
Luis Garcia                     VA District 9 Leader Comment by Luis Garcia VA District 9 Leader on August 9, 2008 at 11:28am
Hey conrad did you read the article posted by Joel above?

Cellulosic Ethanol Basics
Janice Brown Comment by Janice Brown on August 8, 2008 at 7:34pm
I'm about as "Green" as they come. I'm originally from Michigan and I attended MSU, home of the green and white, plus we got a lot of trees over there. LOL! (P.S. You can pick a bushel of cherries for $5.00, compared to only a pound here in New York). ha!
bob bray Comment by bob bray on August 8, 2008 at 3:30pm
"Corn is just a big no no for ethanol production"
from what point of view the oil co or the farmers that want to sell product at best price possible? any study will be skewed to match what "they "want it to say
oh one other thing the irish say "best way from keeping rats from eating 7 bushels of corn is to put it into a gallon jug"
Conrad Watson Comment by Conrad Watson on August 8, 2008 at 5:45am
Went to a lecture in Cambridge on cellulosic ethenol. A form of cane that will grow anywhere, easy to harvest and does not affect farm crops. Easy to convert. Have purchased four Prius. Use for deliver service. My own personal one averages 53 to 54 mpg. Has great screen to help you to acheive maximum mileage. Who Killed the Electric Car a must see. Local libraries have it or you can buy it on Amazon.com and lend it out. So many cars; so many SUVs; not enought batteries. GM deserves to go bankrupt. If you see the movie you will be inspired.
 

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