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New Mexican's for Energy Independence

Group organization towards energy independence starts within our own state.

Location: Santa Fe
Members: 34
Latest Activity: May 25

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Alankar Gupta

PEOPLE'S PETITION 2 Replies

Started by Alankar Gupta. Last reply by Alankar Gupta Sep. 11, 2008.

Archie Velarde

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Started by Archie Velarde. Last reply by John Sep. 10, 2008.

Jeff Simpson

We profit but we do not reinvest? How does that make us a fiscally responsible state?? 1 Reply

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Greg Wortham Comment by Greg Wortham on May 25, 2009 at 4:29pm
Great Plains Energy Summit -- Omaha -- June 17-18, 2009 -- Leaders from the states & provinces of the USA-Canada Wind Corridor are gathering in Omaha, Nebraska on June 17-18 to plan for action in 2010 & beyond. Through the Great Plains Energy Alliance, we are gathering community & regional leaders, state officials, component manufacturers, colleges & universities, wind energy leaders, ranchers, farmers & more. We will discuss transmission infrastructure, community benefits, workforce preparation, state & federal policies, environmental perspectives, The Pickens Plan, and more. There will be caucuses of the state/provincial delegations and learning of best practices from each other. Please join us!

Check out www.GreatPlainsEnergy.us for more info, including registration forms, sponsorship opportunities, and more.
Jessee McBroom Comment by Jessee McBroom on November 23, 2008 at 4:04pm
Hello my name is Jessee McBroom. I am a native New Mexican and look forward to working with this group. To get to know me a little better visit my page and review my profile and my blog. I think we can help each other. Sincerely: Jessee McBroom
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Kevin Espeseth Comment by Kevin Espeseth on October 26, 2008 at 8:16pm
Thanks for your response on the blog. One of my primary complications on this concept is actually getting the information to people that can actually do something with it. As the primary credo for the CIA states; "control of the communication is the first step in control of the country".

Commercialization for export is a long term objective for this, and being able to produce as many of the subassemblies as possible would be in everyone's interest, but (as far as economical exportation is involved) just being able to stuff the necessary stock material in the container (i.e. "cut to lengths", etc.), with adequate equipment (generator, welder, circular saw w/metal blades) and instructions to complete the job, would be plenty to start the export business with.

The more important focus (to me, at this point) is to make aware the -real- potential market of this concept to the most effective sources of communication distribution. The only way to create such a market, is to allow the people that the product is sold to, to make money from the investment -in a secure manner- (a 21 st century "Homestead Act" if you will).

"Carpet bombing the developing countries with -clean- energy production housing" is a great, grand concept, (with all that that implies), but in order for this to work, they are going to need a fair price for the energy they generate, to continue to produce the product, to expand the market )for the "production" facilities).

We can't even remove the economic terrorism within the united states, to allow this concept to be developed. How are we going to be able to export the product? Although long term involvement with the distribution of this individual level of development (with communication, education and clean water as a automatic part of it) would require some sort of PRO-ACTIVE population control, a responsible regulatory structure (profitable economics @ a fair price of $.05/KWH) has to be in place for it to be able to develop at all.

As for me, I can -probably- build this home on my own, with just the monthly social security check (as it does not specify an apartment address for it to be sent to), but that doesn't really show much integrity, or depth of intelligence for our "great society", (if this is as far as it is allowed to expand), does it?
Kevin Espeseth Comment by Kevin Espeseth on October 16, 2008 at 12:42am
Free housing = -negative- carbon footprint ; yes it is profitable...*

Free Trade for CLEAN Energy = $1,500 income per home ($.05 / KWH) each month!

Isn't -accurate- free trade a right in a healthy community?

What other free society foundation definitions have been marginalized in the past 50 years?

Basically, if a person can get a (reasonably) guaranteed price of $.05 / KWH for energy that they generate, (20 HP @ $.05 = $1,500/mth per home, & $7,000,000/mth per 5,000 homes, for watching the windmills go round) then people can profit in finding ways to make the machinery to do so.

Once that is done, 20 HP energy generation (that results in $1,500 / month in return) will allow banks to be comfortable in lending the money for the solar-home / car-convertors (whatever) that do this. With a car payment of $300, and a mortgage payment of $800 (possibly distributed automatically), that still leaves $300 for taxes, and insurance, and food. All this without being any burden on the State.The figures are ballpark, but I would expect the banks to adjust the levels to provide a better level of food / personal income for the kind of return this represents.

* One example:

The LP gas utility increases production of thawing methane resources to capture the gas before it can escape to the atmosphere. It sells the gas to the home owner who can turn the gas into heat and electricity for the home, (plus 2 HP constant extra), using a auto engine equipped with an extra catalytic converter that turns the carbon dioxide into calcium carbonate (this is effective for this range of engine conversion size to 40(?) HP constant). for a check from the utility company of $150 each month (about the cost of the LP gas bill, plus that much more for the pocket). -No changes required to utility infrastructure, and the utility doesn't have to build, man, or maintain the energy generation source; they become a _more profitable_ broker.-

If larger generation capacity is wanted, (20 HP for $1,500 return), a larger monthly connection fee is billed the location, for the upgrade in the wire, equipment, and transformer size, and the LP gas bill would be about $750, with a balance of $700 for profit each month. Any windmills or solar would result in reducing the LP gas bill, making small farms more secure in growing food/energy crops instead of some of the crap they now -have to- sell.

More than that; correct type of homes built / upgraded get more jobs, in the local area. Energy costs for manufacturing and transportation go down -and remain low-. Labor benefits improve for workers, because they don't need a job , absolutely, right away, and small business will have more money to move around.

Free home, security, transportation, food, and insurance,... and all a person has to do is sign a paper (and maybe get a vasectomy in the dangerously over populated parts of the world).

Page 2:

Some math;

20 HP of CLEAN energy conversion machinery per household, (@ $.05 / KWH) = $1,500 per home of extra income, - each month - .

Multiply that by a community of 5,000, and that = $7,000,000 of restructured money flow - per month - for that community alone!

Not to mention how much carbon it removes from the planet.

Do us all a favor and promote the following....

Why CAN'T I sell CLEAN ENERGY to my neighbor (for $.05 / KWH)?

Simple concept isn't it? We all want cheaper (elect.) energy. We all would prefer to buy clean energy if it were available. And, most of us would prefer to buy from a local supplier (especially if the main grid goes down). Why is this concept so "radical" that no politician wants to touch it with a ten foot pole? Just what is really going on here? Isn't the local utility just an ISP, that both you (the content supplier), and
your neighbor (the content customer), pay to, for the right of connection?

If you can show (on an annual inspection) that the energy you generate (on a small farm say) is clean, (or
actually -removes- carbon from the atmosphere), with today's technology for phase regulation, and line
safety, then the only price regulation concerning the local utility should be the size of the transformer and wire coming into your source required to feed your electricity to the grid, and your connection fee be adjusted accordingly. Who cares how it is generated; ethanol fuel cell auto, LP fuel cell home kit, solar, wind,... pig spit (!), as long as it meets the standard for the carbon load to the utility. How many
new business would this technology generate?

I should (as a consumer) be able to go to a web site and purchase -clean- energy futures for any rate that anyone (within a local area) wants to sell it to me for.

The arguments being presented by the utilities are a "tobacco up" mentality that has -never- shown a benefit to any of those involved. The currently existing equipment is similar to the phone system was being operated before the Internet; -mostly unused-. If a transformer is rated to drain 2 HP (constant) into a residence, then it can just as easily handle 2 HP being pumped into the grid without any effect to any
equipment. Additionally, the 60 Hz phase would be strengthened, not corrupted because of the current
technology used to regulate this kind and range of power. There is -much- less power line loss with this type of local consumption. The power companies don't have to build or maintain any new generation locations or expensive high power lines, they only need maintain the local "NET".

Even though an argument can be made for the "ISP" perspective, this needs to be actually presented in a court case for the rights of free trade in this issue. We need to find lawyers willing to present this in court as a "pro-bono" case for the right of free trade in this area, siting the betrayal of public trust from the current utility operational practices!

Not only will the advertisement move clean free trade in energy in this country, it will be adopted by the rest of the planet (proved profitable). "Germany does it." At that point a lot of things change, potentially irreversibly ... as some potential examples:

Foreign Policy;

STOP SENDING MONEY!

If we (in the US) send machinery, of the type indicated in this post, -only- (instead of money that gets funneled into corrupt pockets), how much would the spending of that national money within the country, improve the countries' business climate?. We would, in effect, be making a profit by improving the world community, to a point that terrorism results in the opposite effect intended.

With this kind if free trade in clean energy, we would be able to reliably establish a "energy homestead act"; A low interest loan (as potentially a social security buyout) to establish self supportive residences that will generate more (clean) energy than they require, enough so that the loan is automatically paid back for said energy sale, with possibly enough left over to provide for food and medical. This would be a $50,000 home (to start), paid in 15(?) years, not the "requiring a credit rating, for bank that charges you $300,000, -over thirty years-, for a place to live, that kills the planet"). What if we (in the US in particular) did that, with energy equipment (in a loan program with the excuse of "terra formation") "to "fix the planet"? What kind of response would that get for us, to prove we can improve our living conditions -so substantially-, by helping so many others on the planet, that no terrorist involvement can never find -effective- support, again?

A bit over the top I guess, but if you follow somewhat the direction I suggest here, at least you won't have to deal with the heat during the next grid brown out. ...without sending people to go die in "coal holes"...or on " US military private security escort" for the oil company trucks in Iraq...

more: Just "google" "be1st2"
John Kloepper Comment by John Kloepper on August 19, 2008 at 12:26am
Cara and others,
I hate to say it but there is currently NO incentive program backing individual generation of power via windmills in New Mexico. Your best or only bet would be to set up a windmill to eliminate your own power demands or to put up a wind mill and generate power for someone else (be thier power company)
but if you think you will recieve any money for the REC's forget it, if you do grid tie a wind mill and generate an excess, the best you could hope for getting paid is what they call the avoided cost rate which is about 2 or 3 cents a Kw.
HOWEVER---------
New Mexico does have a pretty good program for solar power, depending on who your power company is you might be able to get a nice check back from "the man" every month. PNM and Excel are strong supporters, the smaller coop power guys tend to NOT support programs as much.
Putting the panels up is the easiest part, going through all the red tape is what takes ages. I am the only residential installation of photo voltaics in Otero County, so I might be able to provide some wisdom if you go solar, also I got listed as a reseller for a renewable energy company so I might be able to suggest a system that would fit your budget.

P.S. I'm looking for 5 acres of land to put 750 solar panels on. Any one have any leads.
Cara Garrett Comment by Cara Garrett on August 15, 2008 at 4:10pm
I live on 320 acres in Hagerman, NM (20 Miles south of Roswell) and am interested in putting wind generators on my land. Can anyone help?
Archie Velarde Comment by Archie Velarde on July 26, 2008 at 10:22am
I agree with what people are talking about about energy independence. However, it appears that we are not addressing the issue that the average "Joe" deals with and that is the high cost of fuel for his vehicle. This is the where the middle class is being hammered.

I suggest some discussion and focus on alternative fuels for our daily transportation. New Mexico, Texas and other large geograhical areas are hurting. I am partial to hydrogen as an alternative fuel for vehicles. Honda and Toyota have already developed such vehicles but have not introduced them to many areas because of the lack of "refueling" stations. Honda is selling such vehicles in southern California because they have a makeshift refueling infrastructure. The Honda does 200 plus miles per fill up and Toyota new technology does over 500 miles.
With refueling stations, this vehicles would be ideal for New Mexico.

New Mexico and other states need legislative action to provide tax incentives and funding for developing alternative energy infrastructure. We need "leadership" similiary to JFK when he announced his bold action of landing in the moon by the "end of the decade". How about a proposal/committment that New Mexico will have 50% of its vehicles/transportation on alternative energy the the year 2020?

Talking about the problem will not solve anything. We must take action and I suggest the following:
1. Have a organization meeting with all concerned to take part. This meeting/forum would address:
a. Creat a list of priority concerns.
b. Identify legislatures that are willing to carry forth our proposals in form of bills.
c. Form a committee strictly for writing this bills.
d. Hold a rally at the proposed legislative session to let the legislature know that we are highly concerned and we need action and their support.
e. Instead of 2-3 group advocating, we need only one.
Alankar Gupta Comment by Alankar Gupta on July 24, 2008 at 9:44pm
Greetings Friends,
We all need to thank Mr. Pickens for explaining the energy problem that we as a nation face. Earlier it was one Group (users) pointing fingers at the other Group (suppliers) and vice versa. The problem is real. It was magnified to some extent, in recent times, by speculators. But, the truth is we are importing more oil every year and producing less. We are sending billions of dollars overseas.

I like Mr. Pickens Plan but I think it needs to be supplemented by other plans. It by itself will not get us to Energy Independence. It will just buy us more time. For this reason I have posted a petition for Energy Independence .

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/windenergycorporation


Please (a) sign the Petition and (b) forward it to your friends. United we can achieve Energy Independence and avoid this constant financial bleeding of our great nation.
Also, if you want to become an partner in this endeavour let me know how I can contact you. It will be a Labor of Love for a Country that we love. Just think what Energy Independence will be like. What it will do to our standard of living. The opportunities it will offer us, our children and grand children.
Thanks.

Regards and Best wishes,

Alankar Gupta
Glen Whiting Comment by Glen Whiting on July 10, 2008 at 10:29pm
Let us define wind as "Big" or "PEP, Personal Energy Production." PEP can be in the form of Solar or Wind but it is sometimes easier to use wind as an example. Big is very costly and requires years to be in place while say a small motel could install 3 or 4 units, see http://www.rancherslifestyle.com/products.asp?cat=24 under a 5-year lease program that would all but replace their utility bill. Upon completion of the 5-year lease their power is FREE except semi-annual servicing.

With PEP you would stay on the grid and what you don't need goes to your community. We are planning to have Greg Pahl speaking at our Green Plan 2008 Conference and Trade Show, see more http://push.pickensplan.com/events/event/show?id=2187034:Event:41458

Glen Whiting
www.RanchersLifestyle.com
432-386-6008
 

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John Alankar Gupta Burt Hall Jeff Simpson Archie Velarde virgil reed Bill Mollring Will Pote, PhD Glen Whiting Brendan Eric Johnson Joel Stocker Gary Douglas Michael McGuire tom Greg Wortham Ted Jurney Kevin Stolpe Jaben Richards Cara Garrett John Kloepper Sam Houston dsrtrosy cody n fagan Jamar Bynum Donald Cole Greg Cagle mladyraven Silvio Cuellar Chris Whiteman Kevin Espeseth
 
 

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