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Comment by South Dakota Wind Energy on February 9, 2009 at 10:50am

A MUST SEE

http://www.bornagainamerican.org/

Comment by South Dakota Wind Energy on January 26, 2009 at 8:41pm

We wish to express our deepest gratitude for ALL our servicemen and women.

Please check my webpage www.SDWE.org
Within my website visit http://sdwe.org/SD-Fallen-Heros.html

We would love to see every state start a simular scholarship for the Fallen Heroes in their states, a NATIONAL level would also be nice to see.

We at South Dakota Wind Energy, and I hope I speak for the Whole Nation,
SALUTE you, OUR HEROES.

Monty and Debbie

Comment by Carl Gottstein on January 26, 2009 at 12:57pm

true patriot's unite! your country needs you!....again.

Comment by Charles Morgan on September 12, 2008 at 4:22pm

Being a retired Navy man and knowing what i know about the 50's technology we used in our aircraft. I KNOW for certain that there are some technolgies avalaible that big oil does NOT want us to know about,,

Comment by Richard Barnard on September 9, 2008 at 7:04am

My experience with nuclear energy 1961 – 1962 - Not good. In addition - UFO sightings in Antarctica.

Rich:

Carl Disch was a USARP who disappeared at Byrd Longwire during DF-65. Over the years many people have claimed to have seen him. See attached.

I should have said that the plant was closed down in DF-73 which started in Oct of 72. The PM-3A final report gives the operating dates of PM-3A as 12 March 1964 -- 20 October 1973. The plant was in operation when I wintered over during DF-63, but it was still in the acceptance phase. BUDOCKs, NNPU, and Martin Marietta where all on site and all they did was fight.

Have you read the two books by Crowson and Pollock about Nukey Poo? Both books are labeled as fiction, but they are actually fact. I wintered with both Pollock and Crowson at different times and you wintered with Pollock during DF-62.

According to the final report the plant first went critical on 3 March 1962 and the first usable electricity was delivered to McMurdo on 10 July 1962. The Navy was officially authorized to operate the plant on 27 May 1964. The plant was shutdown during calendar year 1973 pending the resolution of the interconnect leak and chloride stress corrosion problems. In October of 1973 the decision was finalized to remove the plant.

22-26 October 1972 -- reactor critical
26 October 1972 - reactor shutdown
01 July 1973 - defueling procedure initiated
05 July 1973 - defueling successfully completed
06 July - 09 October PM-3A in cold iron status
10 Oct 1973 - Initiated PM-3A removal plan

I was at McMurdo when all the dirt/rock was removed from Ob Hill and I was at Port Hueneme when it arrived on the ship. Some of it was in 55 gallon drums and some was in the hold. Most of it was buried in the boondocks of CBC Port Hueneme and it's still there. They buried it in a big pit. Put blacktop over it and made it into a parking lot.

I actually have a lot of the messages about the removal of the plant and the contaminated soil.

Two years ago I went to a PM-3A/NNPU reunion in Bay Saint Louis, Mississippi. It was nice to see all those guys again. This past May in Biloxi Miss one of our guest speakers was Captain Chuck Fegley who was the OIC during DF-64 as a LT.

Billy-Ace

In a message dated 7/15/2005 11:43:12 PM Central Standard Time, richardrb@comcast.net writes:

I've never heard of Carl Disch. I've never heard of te Hollow earth theory. I'll do a search on both.

Yes I was talking about PM-3A. It was actually shutdown September 1972 and never went critical again because chloride stress corrosion cracking was suspected.. It wouldn't have been practical to try and fix. It was disassembled and shipped back with several tons of contaminated soil. It took 6-8 years to clean up the site before it could be occupied again. It had a history of minor radiation leakage in its short life span. Again - it sounded like a good idea at the time. I'm glad they tried it. The only reason I call it a nuke in a box is because it only took the Martin Company a little over a year to build. They then put it in a box, so to speak, and shipped it to McMurdo. It was then put in place by See Bees. Can you imagine building a nuclear power plant today in a little over 2 years and have it go critical .

I like to think of PM-3A as being my baby. I was there at its birth - you were there at its death. I take a lot of pride in being a SMALL part of its life.

The messages I received about the UFO sightings were from our RM's on the ice. The UFO stayed over one of our bases for about 3 days. It left and then came back for short periods. I'm convinced now, after thinking about it again - it wasn't a Russian base. Its been 44 years but its something you don't forget. You forget some details but you don't forget the incident. Because you came the summer I left and you were an RM1 at the time I just thought you might have been involved in some way in its continued investigation. I just wondered what the outcome may have been.

Rich

Rich:

I did not know that Col Prouty came to the ice, but during my 4 winters and 14 seasons on the ice I met a lot of VIPs. The one that I was proudest to meet was VADM Sam Gravely who came to the ice in 1977 as COMTHIRDFLT. Sam was the first black admiral in the Navy and before he was COMTHIRDFLT he served as COMNAVTELCOM. The next VIP that I was proud to meet was Ruth Siple who was the widow of Paul Siple the Boy Scout who went to the ice with Admiral Byrd and who was also the first SSL at South Pole Station. After that I think Werner Von Braun and Hoss Cartwright (Dan Blocker) were also sort of memorable as was Cardinal Spellman to name a few.

By "Nuke in a Box", do you mean PM-3A? I never heard it called that before.

There were some weird messages about UFOs that came in over the years when I was on the ice, most of them came from off the ice, but got into Antarctic comms channels somehow. Maybe by AMRAD. I still have copies of some of the messages. I have four or five books in my collection about the Hollow Earth Theory. The USN Exploring Expedition of 1840 led by Commodore Charles Wilkes was partially funded to investigate the Hollow Earth Theory.

Do you know who Carl Disch was?

Billy-Ace

In a message dated 7/15/2005 12:53:05 AM Central Standard Time, richardrb@comcast.net writes:

When Col. Prouty brought the VIP's to see our small nuke in a box were you able to meet Col. Jimmy Dolittle? He brought the VIP's to McMurdo the summer you were there. McNamara, Col. Prouty and our president Kennedy thought small nuclear power plants built by the Martin Company was a good idea. I can understand that - It seemed like a good idea at the time. What better place to try it then the South Pole. It just turned out to be an environmental disaster. Col. Prouty was head of the CIA appointed by McNamara replacing the OSO and everything nuclear seemed like a good idea in the 60's. We were just showing off our little nuke in a box and probably our unmanned Atomic weather stations.

When I wintered over I received several messags about UFO's. I'm not sure what station was sending. I'm pretty sure it was Byrd; however, the Russians are my second best bet. Did you get evolved in any of that?
Hell - no one would believe us today anyway. I have thought about those messages all these years. Just curious.
Rich

Comment by Richard Barnard on September 8, 2008 at 9:58am

Navy - 1959 to mid 1964 - USS Topeka CLG8 and Deep Freeze 62 – Summer Little Rockford Station Antarctica and wintered over McMurdo Station Antarctica.

We have a long way to go. Maybe with another bailout - 50 billion dollars GM and Ford are asking the taxpayers to pay will help build the kind of automobile needed - or not - more handouts.

Wind, Solar are GREAT; however, I personally only have one plan I initiated in 1980 when I invented the HEV (hybrid electric vehicle). It took 28 years but it has finally come into vogue.

I would like people to energetically, aggressively, nicely push the American Automobile manufacturers to build the HEV (hybrid electric vehicle). This vehicle will reduce consumption of any alternative energy and reduce carbon.

The HEV (hybrid electric vehicle) can use many alternative energies. It is the most flexible automobile available. It’s not being built to use the following with the exception of gasoline/diesel but it can be.

HEV – flex fuel,
HEV – hydrogen (water)
HEV – dirty hydrogen (NG)
HEV – NG
HEV – LNG
HEV – LPG
HEV - CNG
HEV - H2
HEV – E85
HEV – gasoline – not an alternative energy; however it is available. HEV = less consumption
HEV – diesel – not an alternative energy; however it is available. HEV = less consumption
HEV – solar? Future
HEV – plasma? Future
HEV – etc, etc, etc, etc, etc

The HEV – (plug in) can be used with any of the above. If the fuel is combustible it can be used. What the HEV allows is less consumption of any fuel used. None of the alternative energy fuels above are available in quantity. Demand is the problem if we want to wean ourselves off Middle Eastern oil.

The HEV is an EV a hybrid EV. Many people don’t think of it as being an electric vehicle.

The hybrid can be built to be as fast and sturdy as any sports car, SUV or Truck manufactured today. Eaton is currently building a truck for Fed X and others.

Comment by Fred Widener on September 8, 2008 at 6:13am

In 1956 I was stationed in Keflivik Iceland and was truly amazed at the lack of smoke coming from the city. I did not realize at the time that Iceland got most of it's energy from geothermal. Folks, this was in 1956. Technology has advanced big time since then. I learned a lot about Iceland in the one year I served there. Geothermal is a great source of energy and is practical in some areas of the USA.

Comment by Fred Widener on September 8, 2008 at 3:57am

Soldiers for Pickins Plan. I just joined. I am a Marine veteran and an Army Retiree. Marines are not soldiers but I guess they are welcome anyway.

I live in Vermont and am not supporting wind generation here but will support it in Oklahoma or Texas and anywhere else that we have a lot of wind and open spaces. New England is not well suited for wind generation except off shore.

Comment by Larry M. Aden on September 8, 2008 at 2:35am

My name is Larry M. Aden, Eden Wind Development LLC, 2694 180th Street, Nemaha, Iowa 50567, 712-636-4490, lmaden@frontiernet.net
I am not a blind supporter of Pickens' Plan, but would love to be convinced.
I spoke with Boone at the LeMars, Iowa Townhall, but he did not provide any specifics about his plan, nor seem to be very amenable to tweaking that which we do know about his plan to make it work for anybody but Boone, nor did he want the 'little people' to understand what is problematical about his plan.
Tho’ I believe he is sincere in his concern for our country. I also believe he thinks he paid for and got good information on the viability of this plan, but his researchers were either incompetent, lazy, or too quick to judgment.
I think Boone really believes that the plan can work as is, and will work really well for him, so he is not going to let a little thing like the facts get in his way, now.
None of his organizers had sufficient command of the technical issues to even converse with on the subject, let alone convince any skeptic.
My request for specific details of the Plan were met with “it’s all on the website”, which is a really unprofessional way of running a marketing campaign!
On top of that, there is nothing more to be found on the website than I knew the first day I looked at it over two months ago.
I want Boone to succeed in principle, but he will not succeed, if he takes the attitude I saw in LeMars. We will need to address all the shortcomings of the Plan head on.
He apparently didn’t get the brief on how educated and independent-thinking Midwesterners are. If he thinks we are just dumb hicks that can be led around blindly by the nose, he has misjudged more than the energy field.
I would like to work for Mr. Pickens in organizing scientists, engineers and technicians to support his Plan with a more in-depth elaboration of a comprehensive energy integration plan that truly could work for Boone, for America, for all Americans, and for the Planet.
We need a national renewable energy production and distribution cooperative, so that all Americans can invest at whatever level we are able to and participate in the returns every day with every dime we spend on energy. This will give everyone a stake in the success of the plan, and disarm all opposition.
I would hope that you will all join with me and forward this to any and all persons that might have an interest, so that we might amass our political force, form a grassroots steering committee to duly constitute a national energy co-op and progress toward the goal of universal participation in America’s sustainable energy future.
I would also hope that you will forward this to any persons that might have the ear of Boone Pickens, Tom Seinhorst or Ray Harris, so that we might actually coalesce toward a universally beneficial working relationship.
If I again get no satisfaction from the Pickens organization, I will be forced, by my sincere concern for enacting the most sustainable energy policy for my country and all Americans, to continue my letter writing campaign to challenge Pickens’ Plan, until it either improves or fails.
Larry M. Aden, President
AMASS, American Mutual Association for a Sustainable Society
EDEN Business and Cooperative Incubator, Jolley, Iowa 50551
I submit my following posts on PickensPlan.com to help you understand my positions:

Local non-partisan action is the best way for us to progress in this struggle!
Natural Gas (NG) serves best in large urban areas where access is universal, driving distances are shorter, and its cleaner burning yields maximum benefit.
If we concentrate on big cities first, we can thus make the greatest improvement for the greatest number in the shortest time.
In this political duopoly, our two major parties have always been more of a hindrance than a help to getting the People's business done.
If we look back at our Founding Fathers for guidance, we see that both George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were adamantly opposed to organized political parties, and the word 'party' does not occur once in our beloved Constitution!
If we want to progress on energy, or anything of import, we must ban all parties from ballot access, so all ideas have equal access, and the voter must vote for the candidate, not the party.
I posted the below on other blogs to help us better understand the energy problems we all face:

Compressed Natural Gas (CNG, mostly CH4) is much cheaper and slightly cleaner than Liquid Propane Gas (LPG, or C3H8), kits for conversion of autos to CNG, LPG, Butane (LBG, or C4H10), or Hydrogen (H2) are virtually identical except for orifice size, but only LPG kits are widely available, and cheap enough to warrant converting.
No kits, that I know of, are designed to change automatically from one fuel to another on the go, as they well should be.
NG will not remain cheap, if substantial conversion of our transportation sector to CNG occurs without equal increases in production of NG its component, methane (CH4), from biogas, or other combustible gases from every possible source.
We also unsustainably consume increasingly huge amounts of NG making Anhydrous Ammonia (NH3) and other industrial gases that could be more cheaply and sustainably made by electrolysis of water (H2O) and cryogenic distillation of air!
Dr. Paul Curto has the right kind of ideas, except Anhydrous Ammonia (NH3) is only necessary for automotive fuel, not to pipe to generating stations. Hydrogen (H2) gas is perfectly compatible with Natural Gas in our existing Low-pressure pipelines, and saves the energy of the primary process of cryogenic distillation of air for the nitrogen and the secondary reactor process to make NH3.
President Bush has been absolutely right in pushing for H2 in every budget he has proposed for the last several years, but nobody listens to him, because he is just "an evil oil man".
Hydrogen (H2) is the answer and is not expensive to make if we use wind energy and other cheap off-peak electrical power during the nighttime to produce it by electrolysis from water.
This relatively-efficient, low-tech solution is over 100 years old, infinitely renewable, totally carbon neutral and more profitable than reforming CH4 from NG, as two pure industrial gases are produced - Hydrogen and Oxygen (O2)!
H2 can also be metered into the mix in our buried low-pressure NG pipelines at any point where it is produced, eliminating the problems in H2 distribution and the need for huge electrical transmission lines from our wind farms.

Below is an in-depth Letter to the Editor in a series that I had published in several newspapers and magazines, few people can get a nearly 3 page Letter published in several papers, but this one was:

COMMON SENSE ON ENERGY, NOW!!!, Part II
I wanted to discuss how we should make use of wasted local energy resources like that biogas flame at the sewage plant and the algae from Storm Lake for bio-fuels, but the nitwits are attacking on other fronts, so I must rush to the ramparts.
This won’t be short, so if you would rather not learn anything today, or you don’t want your present world view to be confused by the facts, stop reading, now!
I am often fond of saying that God created every person with a special talent and their own little piece of the truth. The real trick is in finding each persons talent to employ them to their fullest, and to recognize their little piece of the truth, so that we can put it in its proper place in the jigsaw puzzle of life to recreate that picture of eternal bliss in the Garden of Eden. Sadly, not every living being is willing to lend their talent and their knowledge to this quest. For this reason, we all continue to suffer.
Texas oil man, T. Boone Pickens, whose talent seems to be making money for himself, made over $1Billion speculating in oil and gas in 2005, again in 2006, $1.5B in 2007, was earlier estimated to be worth $3 Billion, but has since been instrumental in pushing crude oil beyond reason with his very public pronouncements that “oil is going to $150”.
It is now hovering around $145 as he quietly sells the barrels he bought at $50, after all, he’s not greedy; he doesn’t have to have every penny of that $150!
Whenever you hear a speculator say one thing, you should run the other direction!
Just like when George Soros caused the devaluation of the US Dollar, when he announced to the world that he was getting out of Dollars and buying Euros. That should have been interpreted by all of us that Soros had already sold all of his Dollars and bought all the Euros he could buy. He went public, because he wanted everyone else to do the same, so he could get out of Euros near their high and buy Dollars cheap.
Because Soros is rich, every fool listens to him. All the lemmings bit on this one, and rushed to dump their Dollars, stressing our economy and raising the price of food, fuel and everything we buy in the process. George only wants money and a Dem elected President, and he doesn’t care who he has to hurt to get it!
Paraphrasing Josef Goebbels, Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda, “If you mix a big lie in with a little truth, and tell it often enough, you can convince everyone it is the truth.”
That is what T. Boone is doing with his very expensive TV ad campaign touting PickensPlan.com to reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
Everything he has to say about the harm buying foreign oil is doing to our economy is absolutely true. That we should use more of our own CNG (compressed natural gas) for our autos is also true, and absolutely achievable with technology we have had for decades. That we should make more use of wind and solar energy, of course, but, that we can take Natural Gas (NG) away from electrical generation and replace that with wind and solar power shows he is either extremely ignorant of the fundamental facts about electricity, or he is trying to pull the wool over our eyes for his own profit!
Call me cynical, but I am betting on the latter, as recently, Pickens has heavily invested the profits of his oil speculation into both wind and natural gas!
He has also invested heavily in water rights, what should that tell us about what ‘shortage’ might develop next?
I am all for anyone making money, just do it honestly, without hurting your fellow man in the process, always giving your trading partners equal fair market value.
To see why Pickens’ Plan is not perfectly honest and achievable, we need to understand our energy consuming habits and needs.
Electrical power providers categorize our energy demand as 3 types of “load” – base, intermediate, and peak.
“Base load” is the minimum level of electrical power consumption at any one moment throughout any hour of every day of the year. This is constant demand and requires constant generating capacity, as alternating current cannot be stored, it must be used at the moment it is generated. They use hydroelectric, nuclear, and coal-fired steam turbine generating plants to provide this power, as these are cheap, constant and dependable, but cannot be started and stopped quickly to meet new load.
Geothermal, ocean thermal, offshore wind, wave, and ocean current energy could also be used for this load, and these represent the only safe and inexhaustible supply of renewable energy available to us to address ‘base load’. Why does no one even mention them in this debate on what we should do about energy? Why should we build nuclear plants when we haven’t even sunk one turbine in the Gulf Stream, yet?
“Intermediate load” is the demand that increases from 6AM, when the world starts to stir, to 9PM, when it starts to wind down, getting ready for bed. This happens like clock work every day, regardless of the weather, it can be planned for, so they fire the boilers in those coal-fired plants, a little harder, a little ahead of time, to bring more steam turbine generators on-line, or open another gate on a hydroelectric dam, when you and I want to shower and go to work.
“Peak load” is different every day of every season, depending heavily upon the weather and variable human activity. It is normally between 12 Noon and 4PM, with space heating and air conditioning being the greatest variable in demand. This demand changes rapidly and requires instantaneous response in generating capacity from hot gas turbines, which burn NG. There is no alternative to this gas, except other more expensive gases. If we take this NG from electric companies, we will be constantly plagued with brownouts and blackouts, or see massive increases in the price of our power and fuel, or both.
Wind cannot replace this power, in fact, our need for NG in electrical generation will actually increase with increased dependence on the fickle wind, as it almost never comes when we really need it. Most of the best wind comes at night, when we do not need it at all. The power companies really hate to be forced to buy wind power for 3.5cts/Kwh while shutting down coal-fired generation that costs them 1ct/Kwh. Who could blame them? Likewise, where the best wind comes, from West Texas to North Dakota, we do not have the necessary transmission lines, because there are few people living there to serve this power to.
High tension interstate transmission lines are very expensive, and very intrusive! Nobody wants these monstrosities built in their back yard!
What we could, and should, do is hook every alternative energy source we can find to a local load that matches it.
Solar photoelectric energy is a good match for air conditioning, refrigeration, and water pumping. Demand for these always increases when the sun shines, perfect match! It is expensive, inefficient, and nearly useless for anything else. Solar heating is little better, but should be passively designed into every new building.
Wind is a great match for space heating, water pumping, battery charging and other automated industrial processes that can be run when the wind blows, and shut off when it doesn’t, such as cryogenic distillation of air, hydrogen electrolysis, anhydrous ammonia (NH3) production, and other industrial gas production from these processes.
Huge quantities of our precious NG are spent senselessly in manufacturing NH3 for fertilizer, when it has long been cheaper to return to the original carbon-neutral, and infinitely renewable process of making it from water and air.
We must rewrite the REA charter to cover all forms of rural energy distribution, empower local REC’s to fund, sell and maintain distributed generation systems for their members, and to empower those members to sell all forms of energy directly back.
Then, we must erect wind and water current turbines everywhere we can possibly put them, thousands of big ones, and millions of smaller ones between them, that we manufacture here (not expensive imports). Each can be wired into our present electrical grid without building new transmission lines. Then, we must hook each to a water electrolyzer, and a booster pump, to store the off-peak energy as Hydrogen gas (H2), putting this, along with methane (CH4) from our every hog house, poultry house, cattle feedlot, and sewage plant, into the local low-pressure NG pipelines that serve our houses, farms and industries. Underground low-pressure NG pipelines are cheap and innocuous.
NG, mostly CH4, the very same biogas produced by every marsh, cow stomach, and manure pit, is compatible with both gasoline and diesel engines, and is perfectly interchangeable with propane, butane, and Hydrogen in low pressure gas systems (<300psi). These gases are extremely clean burning and can be used interchangeably in any gasoline motor with a truly flex-fuel system having an adjustable orifice.
H2 and CH4 are perfectly compatible, clean, safe and infinitely renewable; they also store well and liquefy under comparable conditions, but only at very high pressures (5400psi), or very low temperatures (-253C). CNG is normally packed at 3000psi for auto fuel, which is too high to be compatible with other gases, and too low to liquefy.
So, we should standardize compressed gas auto fuel storage pressure with liquid propane gas (LPG) at 300psi, then, use LPG, ethanol, or gasoline, only for long trips, and NG for our every day commutes.
With a small pump, we could all fill our cars and tractors at home from our own NG/H2 pipeline meter for about a Dollar per gallon gasoline equivalent!
When Pickens wants us to do that, I’ll support him, 100%!

Comment by vinbeazel on August 9, 2008 at 11:41pm

As a strong proponent of energy education, I have fought to bring these principles of sustainable classrooms to our radio shows.

EnergyTalk LIVE did a show today on the Pickens energy plan and most of us are very supportive of the man and the plan. It is time we make technical training in energy our top priority across the country.

We at AlternativeEnergy.com propose to make energytalk LIVE a fixture on every campus and/or community centers, as a continuation of the computer literacy campaigns in California in the mid nineties.

Come help expand our radio shows; the schedule is posted on our web site.
vhbeazel@yahoo.com

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