natural gas fuel truckstop / filling station

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Permalink Reply by William P. Murphy on September 12, 2009 at 9:42am

Shon,
If I were you I keep refueling at a minium and concentrate on storage of trailer and the equipment to load on regional drop off and pick-up center. What people are going to do is at home service sites that all ready set up for electric or natural gas. People are going to set up either of this sources at home because it right at home. I when the government send out the money for freeways put that money into better local bridges or pollution improvement. I think the money is natural gas cars and trucks plants, that Mr. Boone has in mind. I would find out what lines that make Postal equipment and chage the trucks and cars that will turn a profit right off the bat. USE YOUR LOCAL BANKS! Trains both passengers, light rail and container hauler will be common place. You see paying the local utilities. Putting in the infra structure is in place in most area. Wind farms and Nuclear plant will supply power for the rail system. If we do this we can create many good paying job and deduction on taxes instead of run printing presses. We also need to give people to vote on the style of cars so we can sell them a style most people will buy. I would say we will have a dip in the market because of the government keeps up thier wrong head think. When you get money for light rail put it down main street and no were near WalMart.

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Permalink Reply by Frank on December 4, 2009 at 10:24am

Hello Shon,

I would start by trying to determine the capital and O&M costs for a CNG refueling station. I would also try to find nearby fleets that could be persuaded to convert their vehicles. Keep in mind that EPA/CARB certified conversions are very limited due to exorbitant certification costs. You would need to find a fleet of 100 identical vehicles (at the very least) to reduce vehicle certification costs to reasonable amount. Diesel-CNG dual fuel conversions would be easier to promote to local businesses.

Once you have a customer base that covers the break-even costs of the station, you could look at expanding your market to become profitable.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Wu at Keenmotorbikes.com on December 16, 2009 at 1:25am

Please keep in mind that you need to have Natural Gas Conversion Shop nearby before you set up the Filling Station as the plan you wanted, otherwise there is no consumers to come in to your shop even you have had execellent location for this new business venture.

Most of time, the 18 wheelers need to travel 600 Mile per day to gain its mileage from the business, it needs Liquified Natual Gas system ( roughly 150 GGE/day ) to provide that distance by the tank size equipped, but the local vehicles may need only 6 to 9 GGE /day Natual Gas fuel by the Compressed Natural Gas System to keep the conversion expense falled into the tolerance which general publics can affort. Therefore, you may need to have LCNG station ( Dual dispensers and Natural Gas Processing systems in same station ) that may get your investment convered in a much overall and faster manner in terns of the demand of the different applications and Fuel System converted.

We have 12 milliions of 18 wheelers operated on the US highway everyday, these 18 wheelers consumped 45% of the total Diesel fuel in this country every year. we should get those 18 wheelers converted to run the Diesel / Natual Gas fuel system by an economic and practical solution before we urge government to give us more support in coming future. They need to re-fuelling Natual Gas and Diesel in the same pump Islands to keep their Diesel Engines runs as Diesel efficiency and power sufficient for the high output to haul 50,000 lbs of load as original system, they don't mind to pay Diesel in regular price at the pump to save the time on the road, as these Truckers and Fleet owners save 50% of fuel cost from the Bi-Fuel system they converted. That's the biggest operation cost for these trucks everyday. The Conversion shop and Refilling station should stay together and help each other in all times.

That's my humble suggestion for you. Reach me if there is any further question about this issue.

michael at keenmotor dot com

Michael Wu
Keenmotor Inc.,

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• BI-FUEL CNG1.pdf, 297 KB
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