A question for any VC's or Angel Investors here: How is your $$$ working for you? Have you gone to ground, or are you still seeking projects?

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Permalink Reply by Chris Havrilesko on March 20, 2009 at 8:21pm

We will invest .We at great Eastern lighting are already investing in our labor time and materials in the small business of Pittsburgh Pa area. We retrofit fluorescent lighting on a nonprofit basis for any business to reduce fossil fuel emissions in this area. Any company can contact us and we will do the same for you. This is real, not a commercial promotion.You finally can say I saw something too good to be true and it wasnt too good to be true it really was true. Contact us and find out. thanks, save the planet with us. Chris

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Permalink Reply by Arno Lundin on March 24, 2009 at 1:02am

Just thought I'd update. Thank you for support Ideas and feedback. We are private individuals that have supported PureLignin.com discovery,patent,license agreement, and building of a 2nd gen plant. Pure Lignin is no longer selling shares and has moved into the phase of selling license agreements of it's technology. USA license sales are expected to be in the billions with royalty revenues in the billions per year. Many other global conglomerates are jostling for agreements. The greatest news is that the biggest players have seen their way with a true alternative to oil. The repercussions of this implementation of technology will be lower energy,less pollution, and independence from foreign oil.
The technology will change the bottom line for many industries and lessen their foot print. I am not an employee of Pure Lignin just a shareholder. thank you once again for being there.

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Permalink Reply by Arno Lundin on March 25, 2009 at 3:36pm

Thanks for your input Bonnie but we are not needing VC or any other capital at this time. We did this the old fashion way and side stepped the stock market ponsi scheme. We have more than enough parties ready to go to the next stage to license technology. Web site is a little out of date which is why I was promoting it a while ago so people could get up to date info. I have personally seen to many dream teams come from wall street only to see them in the news as fraudsters later down the road. This front end reactor fits too many industries to include all of them so the focus was on the biggest users. I understand many had a hard time understanding the process but that said the invite was there for people to do due diligence which I would of happily provided. The process was important enough to the world that the DOE study was done in 2005 at the time we had the provisional so no one knew. The study can be found by searching DOE for elander report. We thought at that time we were mainly a solution to the pure lignin problem and a solution for the pulp industry. The last 3 years the patent was final and other countries being filed for as well as the tests from the products the process produced were tested by many different industry people and the list grew and grew as they confirmed that the products were indeed the raw material with the right properties for their needs. We know the orthodoxy of the pictures and what not are not what you call scientific professional speaking but that is because the people involved are just working folk without degrees. However they have tones of real world on hand business experience wrapped in a tenacious brain. Patent #s and related information private business info has always been kept confidential and released to those that have put money up or those that have shown a sincere interest to do so. There were times when public dream teams were looked at but they all proved to be people who wanted to take the deal and pump and dump stock. The cash out would have been a lot sooner but from a shareholder perspective it would have been a sell out. I respect the integrity and the ability to hold on. They were answering all those questions and more and have done since its inception. The information however was not broadcast. Work ahead yes, this is just now the beginning of what most investors look for in a startup and then once they see revenues then they jump in with the herd. The long term investor looks for the established dividend players. In my opinion that is the majority of people out there and is why the wall street thieves have been able to pull so much money out of it. The true wall street people with integrity have been dragged down by the bad dogs as well. This is not the only venture I have seen through from seed to finish. It has taken a lot of work just to do the true diligence. Something people are to unwilling to pay to do or do themselves. I am very different from the herd or pack mentality and have a list of successes I have followed or been a part of but that to is private and confidential. Low key slow to move long term and read every document and talk to the prospected customers. Every manufacture I know has bugs in there plants. A bug does not stop you from producing it just delay's it. Old Coke plants have all kinds of bugs as does every soft drink maker. I'm sure there will be plenty of little bugs along the way but nothing that is not addressable. Even the engineered plans that came from well known huge plant builders have bugs in them . I know because as a project manager I have had to overcome those things.
This may be a bit winded but if you read this and pull out the right bits of information it may prove to help many in there investing strategies. This crowd seems to be more interested in a hot tip for quick return. I come from the Berkshire school of thought. One thing about private investing is you never need worry about a market crash. shareholder is more like partner thing to me. I'm not looking to strip profit out the first chance I get. That said anything can change and how you handle change is of utmost importance when managing your portfolio. A drawback to private investing is pulling out your money if things turn bad. Hopefully your due diligence with the people that are making the decisions will provide you with winners.
If anyone had a 100% guaranteed way everyone would be doing it right.

Luv all Ya'll and keep Pushing the Plan

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Permalink Reply by Arno Lundin on March 26, 2009 at 5:07am

Well finally someone did some due diligence and that I like to see. I never said it was secret just not broadcast. The market has seen more ethical days. And yes people have tried other way's over the last 30 years or more and none have succeed and that does not say that it can't or won't be done. I hold no judgment as to the market being good or bad it has both. I thought I wrote as I see it today. I spoke truth and was by no means saying one style of investing is better or worse. There is no need for big investors so not sure why you said that. What you say about patents is true to all patent holders and some people even believe they are a waste of time. No need to roast me for my opinion or style I judged none and have tried to learn what I can from everyone. Not sure what the Bull part of your reply is and I would appreciate you clarify that for me off the board so as not to interfere with the other folks. email me so I understand what got your goat so I may not repeat the same in the future.

I do like the posts people have been making but please lets keep it open so others will feel free to share even if they don't have the skills in language. Those more proficient can help those of us not so.

It is a small blue marble we are on.

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Permalink Reply by Arno Lundin on March 26, 2009 at 8:56am

I find it hard to understand that by thanking folks for input has led to this. I remember a Bonnie that had info on used tires to produce energy and I came to her defense when others thought the idea out of context. Humor yourself and do a little more research and you will find the answers to those questions. I merely was identifying different ways deals can get done. No one is looking for VC's or Angels. A second plant has been built. Independent tests have been done. Third party tests have been done. Hundreds of species have been processed. Microsoft never built computers just the software. Pure Lignin provides the technology. I read what I wrote over a few times and still do not understand your angst. I would have thought people would be happy that a process that when fully implemented will save the from planet tons of pollution. This with many other changes and technologies that are being made give a hope of knowing we as humanity are on a brighter path. I am a friend to the PP.

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Permalink Reply by Earl Allen Boek on May 4, 2009 at 9:18pm

Paul: Risk Takers? Anyone in the renewable energy industry for any length of time is a risk taker.
Let me assure you. I have never been in a more unstable industry. Even real estate investment seems
tame in comparison.

While I have seen interest of late, in large-scale, grand schemes, but these seldom are real and usually
do not pan out. Interesting to me. That I actually am having challenges raising relatively small amounts
of capital for a project I know has great potential and yet I do not see anyone who has that "$$$ burning
a hole in their pocket" mentality, you mention above, Just the opposite...they must be sleeping on the
capital and they intend to take it with them to the grave.

As to bailout and stimulus help for the regular folks, like us, maybe...I coin Niel Young's (yes he's still
out there) on his Cross Roads Album release..."There's a bailout coming...but it's not for you."

Please allow me to suggest to the list they visit my BlogTalk FED, AlternativeEnergydotcom show
archives, where we feature investments and information on Financing Energy Development. Also
twitter me @greenearldotcom actually use the dotcom spelled out and follow the latest in Google
investment news on YESWECANSOLVEITDOTBLOGSPOTDOTCOM _Thanks Paul_Green Earl

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putting out about 3 times the energy as mounted on the back of these slightly elevated collectors are
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program is a perfect addition to the apartment complex industry here in California. I'm looking for a total
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the $30 mil dollar range at around 25% gross pre-tax profit and am willing to give up equity and a equal
share of the profits of this endeavor to the right investor(s). Using a similar marketing program, in a past
effort, we were able to put 28 apartment complexes under contract in just 10 days. I figure each 100
units, adding our conservation program, which includes, solar air and heating, solar blind that turn single-
pane into triple pane efficient openings and foils that reflect the heat in the summer, lighting conversions
adding solar hot for tenants showers water to laundries, spas and pools, and then, last but not least solar
electric puts the jobs at about $1 mil for each 100 units...there are 15,000 complexes in California...
Interested parties can contact me at 530-549-4315_Green Earl

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Permalink Reply by Earl Allen Boek on May 4, 2009 at 9:25pm

I should add here, however, since the Federal Energy Tax Credits have been extended 8 years...much of
the uncertainty associated with our industry is gone now...at least on the retail levels....there is still a lot
of products out there, a huge need (with utilities increasing at around 8% per year) and stimulus funding
and job creation funds for the Green Industries here are underway...So, anyone wanting a REAL opportunity
in the industry, need look no further._Green Earl

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Permalink Reply by Steve at work on May 27, 2009 at 11:40am

Earl;
Could you be a little more specific as far as the stimulas funding on the way? I have applied for some to help develope a wind farm and hear nothing but conflicting information. I could use a little help in figuring out how to fund the project.
Steve

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