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Hi Donna, Love the FLOWER! Another thought to help you save money on your oil Changes. Anachronism
This letter outlines a Simple “5 Step Process” to do your part to help save 75,000,000 Million gallons of MOTOR OIL every year!
This process requires all of us to understand HOW to accomplish this and ALL of us can “START TODAY”. (In this example I’m ONLY using Wal Mart’s volume of oil used yearly as it’s public record and they are the largest “TLE” business, according to public records, Wal-Mart, 3,185 TLE’s, around the world, change oil in both cars and truck approaching 60,451,300 vehicles yearly.
This “Simple Process” starts during your next visit to your friendly “TLE, Jiffy Lube, Oil Can Henry’s or any other location” you typically use when changing your oil every “3,000” miles.
Step 1. YOU simply request or purchase your “MOBIL 1”, Full Synthetic, MOBIL 1/EXTENDED PERFORMANCE” MOTOR OIL” readily available in either “10W-30 or 10W-5. These SYNTHETIC OIL weight’s covers 95% of all engines CURRENTLY used IN ALL VEHICLES. (Currently available for $29.88 w/tax) at your local Wal Mart store)
Step 2. Bring your new “Mobil Extended Performance”, High Efficiency and High Capacity Oil Filter (costs $11.25 w/tax). (Available at all SCHUCK’S, NAPA, NATIONAL, CARQUEST or other national auto suppliers”.) This filter MUST BE USED to ensure the Oil Filter continues to function for the required miles and maintains the “MOBIL 1, “Guarantee” of 15,000” miles of protection.
Step 3. YOU have taken your next “STEP” to help everybody save “40,000,000” million gallons of refined OIL in the next 12 months.
Step 4. This “Simple Process” directly saves you “$118.44” every year and “You only visit your Friendly Oil Changer” every 15,000 miles.
Step 5. When this “Simple Process” is started, the owners of ALL participating vehicles are jointly involved in reducing $500,000,000 of “OUR” money leaving our county every Year!
Currently you pay, Wal Mart, ($31.65 w/tax) and ($3.00) for one trip to Wal Mart, to change your imported oil at or any other business. (Quoted-8/30/08) Every “3000” thousand miles, you typically spend $158.25 per year for five oil change’s every 15,000 miles of travel. NOW you only spend ($73.37 for every “15,000” miles) (instead of $158.25 every 15,000 miles). You save ($84.90 per year) and five hours wasted in the “Waiting in oil line”. (Approximately, 60,450,300 oil changes occurred at Wal Mart last year) and will collectively (save all OIL CHANGERS/owners $15,112,825). (These MILLIONS OF DOLLARS stay in your wallet, “NOT THE OIL CHANGING COMPANIES”)
The “5 or more” quarts of oil used in these car or trucks equals “302,256,550” quarts of oil WASTED! (Most HD trucks require 15 quarts of oil) (All vehicles built in the last 8 years explain in the owner’s manual about using “Full Synthetic oil, in place of typical motor oil. (IF NEEDING TO COMFIRM, SIMPLY ASK THE DEALER OR LOOK IN YOUR OWNERS MANUEL)
EACH OF US undertakes “ONE” simple act using “Mobil 1,Full Synthetic Mobil 1” and America can “END” the importing of 75,564,125 MILLION gallons of Oil and KEEP “$15,112,825 MILLION dollars in OUR individual wallets”.
NO subservient actions to any government or COUNTRY! YOUR Actions define your “BACKBONE”. I ALREADY PRACTICE WHAT I PREACH. YES, every time you change oil and use the method explained above YOU will decrease the” WASTE of OIL” per car, by 4 gallon’s or more, PER YEAR! Anachronism
IF YOUR CAR USES EXCESSIVE OIL, CHECK OIL LEVEL EVERY 1,000 MILES AND “TOP OFF” AS NEEDED TO PROTECT YOUR ENGINE!
BUSINESS REASONS FOR Wal Mart Tire & Lube, Express is shown NEXT: I worked in this industry and or for Wal Mart for 15 months and carefully documented all the information displayed. Yes, it is true in all respects as to the amount of oil per user to “DECREASE” the amount of imported/domestic oil usage by the simple alteration of “Inputted” actions and our lack of same induced by the companies polices to maintain their “Market Share” and the “Easy” cash flow derived.
The underlying business element is related to the sale of “Batteries, Tire’s and sundry supplies with a 100% “Plus markup which is totally derived from the “Oil Change” which is a “Loss Leader” to drive overall sales in the store. You “ DRIVE IN” alone or your family as three other occupants with you and “Wait” for “YOUR” car which derives a “SUPER” bonus by having a captive “Customer Group” for an average of 45 minutes per client’s car.
If the workload time frame exceeds, 45 minutes, per vehicle they “MAY” give you a “discount “if” you complain. The discount could be 10% or $3.00, BUT they have captured you in their “Store” for other sales and they “Gladly” give you the refund. Only 1% ever complain about the time and people gladly “Sit and Wait” or shop.
: YES, every time you change oil and use the method explained, YOU will decrease the” WASTE of OIL” per car, by 4 gallon’s or more, PER YEAR!
Sorry it took me so long to respond, but I really do appreciate all the info. on Salem and your area of MO! Sounds like a pretty neat place, and I'll be checking into it further. Some aspects sound alot like here - like Walmart being the main place to shop and not many jobs, but I will also consider Rolla.
One thing I'm looking for is having some "progressive" type folks around, such as yourself, and what I consider myself to be - haha. Around here, Austin is very progressive, live-and-let-live and diverse, but with an expensive cost-of-living. Out here in the hills it's a little cheaper but almost as high to live, and most people are rather conventional/conservative and either well-off or else close relatives of Jeff Foxworthy - if you know what I mean! 60 miles distance makes a big difference in overall lifestyles and attitudes.
Very cool that the Dillards were/are native to your area! I always enjoyed their music on the AGS, and wish they'd featured them more. They seemed excellent musicians and ahead of their time - progressive bluegrass with traditional roots, way before that became more mainstream.
BTW, I'm also originally from the upper Midwest near your old stompin' ground of Chicago. I grew up in southern WI, near Milwaukee, but have lived in TX for many years - first in Houston area, then out here. My wife is native Texan and grew up near here. We've also lived and worked in NJ and in Seattle, WA area. Awesome Summers there, and I really didn't mind the Winter rain too much, but again - VERY high cost of housing and land with lots of suburban sprawl.
Better get back to work. Good to chat, and please feel free to correspond. God Bless! -Bob-
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A tree is so much more.
Re: TSO !!
Great Idea....
So why dont we create another "Earth day" Holiday and call it TSO Day or Green Day. We would advertise on tv, radio, internet, and billboards...Green Only on that day like no driving, no buying gas whatsoever, install an R/E item in your home, no lights, no cooking, save energy, have Tons of Eco-Events at local parks that showcase Renewable Energy businesses and Technology...and of course, A Pickens Plan Tent - with bands, clothing and food vendors, scooter, hybrid and electric car presentations, the works !!! (do they even sell TPP shirts?) Also a Hazardous Materials Collection (batteries, computer equip, paint, cf bulbs etc) If we get members from all 52 states to join a group called TSO Day(?) and plan it there, we should be able to pull one off before the end of this year.....(and if its before Nov 4th - wherever the Candidates are that day, they had better attend the event closest to them ) If not then, we wait and we can maybe just use April 20th (the real earth day) and just ask the POTUS to send his wife to the DC event as his representative !! i am sure someone has a better name in mind! Maybe even just "Green Day" like the group and ask them to play there
Lets Get Creative =)
Donna, you simply need to use the piping and place into the roof/attic section and run a pipe, either used or new into your living area and pick up a used furnace from a second hand store or the simply the unit minus the furnace parts and use it to suck the air down. Forget the sensor and pull the heat and use it. My first system in burlington came from a bank remodel job and 8 truck loads cost $50 and completely supplied the duct work for the warehouse AND the two story house I was building to live in. Become creative and open your eyes and realize americans throw away 80% of their stuff 1 year later. In I built my first mini-warehouse in 1978 using a two story lumber yard, plastic wrap from bunks of lumber and 400 reject SOLID core doors from a door factory.
I spent $40,000 to build the complete project in Centralia, Wa. In 1981 we sold this project for $240,000, and retired for the third time.
Look for used materials and be creative in you endeavor. Go to building supply stores like Home Depot and they have tons of slightly bent rebar for $.20 on the dollar. Lumber and other items like cabinets, fixtures and light you can purchase cheap. Example: my first house was a granary built in 1889 that I purchased in 1963 for $100 and made it into a home that we sold for $75,000. LOOK for the odd things and make them useful ! Our third house was built from the truck loads of used materials from my warehouse project, a used drive-up bank and two truck loads of NEW cabinets from a lumber company when they changed vendors. I received 30 tons of polished granite from a bank remodel which I used for the airtight stove area in this hose and received it for hauling it home. BE CREATIVE and ASK for stuff. It is everywhere!
Anachronism
Hi, Donna, august 25, 7:38
#1-When and before you enter your attic space, make sure you have proper light to observe all elements of your attic and the area where you will work.
#2--You must use safe working planks to safely span the work area (Your attic is probably the structure that contains the insulation, wiring, heat ducts and other elements of the ceiling structure) so that you “DO NOT DAMAGE ANY OF YOUR FINISHED INTERIOR STRUCTURE”.
#3_If you have a “Downdraft” furnace system with the return air piping going to your current heating system, you want to enter this duct return as close to the furnace as possible.
#4th-Closer to the main suction point, more Passive Heat is “Pulled into” your house.
#5th-Start your upper suction position of the intake pipe at least 24” to 30” to draw from the “Hottest” collection point in the typical pitched roof area inside.
#6-If needed, place a short piece of metal ductwork into the new suction pipe to keep the flexible unit from sucking in and blocking the entering position.
#7-Carefully attach to “Suction pipe” to keep it straight and proceed to the position where you enter the “return air line” and use suitable adaptor to the return air duct into your existing furnace system.
#8-Pick a location for you “Remote” sensor control inside your home and connect the wiring to the sensor inside your attic located at a distance of 36” to the side of your new intake pipe and level with the opening located in the attic.
#9-Follow instruction with the sensor and connect your wiring from the attic remote sensor to the “Sensor” unit.
#10-Attach low voltage (dual wire) from the sensor to the connection in your furnace in the same position your house or current interior thermostat is currently connected.
#11—CONSULATE LOCAL ELECTRICAN IF NEEDED TO HOOK UP THESE LOW-VOLTAGE WIRES IF NECESSARY!!!!!
#12- Make sure to support the new pipe with suitable material and DON’T crush the pipe.
13-Make sure the connection into your current intake pipe is airtight and don’t damage either piping.
14-NOW you need to close any current ATTIC venting opening in the gable ends to “CREATE YOUR PASSIVE SOLAR HEATER”. Understand that this is legal as you have now “CREATED A POSTIVE ATTIC REMOVEAL SYSTEM OF HEATED AIR”
15-Go to the 10-pictures on Anachronism and notice my designed “Intake” opening are located at the topside of the attic ceiling structure. This allows the “COMPLETE ATTIC AREA” serve as a solar collector.
16-IF you don’t have a forced air furnace and currently use electric baseboard heaters you need to pick a location in your ceiling that allows the most equalized location to bring your attic heat into your home.
17-You pick a location that equalizes the distribution within the room and, “if needed” use a pipe with holes around the pipe to cause the air to disperse and direct downward to the floor area. You figure out this problem to fit you house.
18. Use the defined “Inline Suction Motor” and consult your local electrician to make the electrical connections to this motor and use a suitable electrical switch to the “Remote Sensor” to make automatic or simply use a wall switch to operate this “Inline Suction Motor” by hand.
---You decide whether you want automatic or manual---
19-Trim out the inside “exhaust opening” to a neat and clean appearance to finish the job.
20-You just created a “Passive Solar Heating System!”
(Remember you “MUST” have air movement into the attic space from either the eaves or at the bottom of the gable ends to allow air to enter the attic space to allow your system to function. NOTICE the location on each of the project’s air intakes, I designed, built and controlled every aspect to create those solar projects.)
Sincerely, Anachronism
We all share the same goal; to rid ourselves of foreign oil and clean up our environment for our children and grandchildren. Wind energy is a viable alternative. Some of us have a different ideas of what we can do for immediate relief.
Check out our group "Live Carbon Free" and see how we are promoting conservation and environmental stewardship as the bridge to future energy developments. Regardless of what we do, it will take some time to implement on a significant scale. For immediate results we can make a huge difference by conserving what we have.
We would like for you to join our group and value your input. Feel free to add me as a friend.
Something about your post made me want to quote lyrics from "Big yellow taxi"???
They took all the trees
Put em in a tree museum
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see em
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
Donna, Your site is neat..I love the Internet for sharing.
You expressed what many, many are saying. Most people can't build a wind turbine, get solar, etc. By banding together on Pickens Plan, we can share ideas and express our feeling to the elected officials.
I have learned so much..like I didn't know there were smaller solar panels people use on RVs. Most of the technical stuff goes over my head.
Isn't Salem near Rolla? Or St. James? I love the ice-cream at Ruby's in St. James.
Linda
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This letter outlines a Simple “5 Step Process” to do your part to help save 75,000,000 Million gallons of MOTOR OIL every year!
This process requires all of us to understand HOW to accomplish this and ALL of us can “START TODAY”. (In this example I’m ONLY using Wal Mart’s volume of oil used yearly as it’s public record and they are the largest “TLE” business, according to public records, Wal-Mart, 3,185 TLE’s, around the world, change oil in both cars and truck approaching 60,451,300 vehicles yearly.
This “Simple Process” starts during your next visit to your friendly “TLE, Jiffy Lube, Oil Can Henry’s or any other location” you typically use when changing your oil every “3,000” miles.
Step 1. YOU simply request or purchase your “MOBIL 1”, Full Synthetic, MOBIL 1/EXTENDED PERFORMANCE” MOTOR OIL” readily available in either “10W-30 or 10W-5. These SYNTHETIC OIL weight’s covers 95% of all engines CURRENTLY used IN ALL VEHICLES. (Currently available for $29.88 w/tax) at your local Wal Mart store)
Step 2. Bring your new “Mobil Extended Performance”, High Efficiency and High Capacity Oil Filter (costs $11.25 w/tax). (Available at all SCHUCK’S, NAPA, NATIONAL, CARQUEST or other national auto suppliers”.) This filter MUST BE USED to ensure the Oil Filter continues to function for the required miles and maintains the “MOBIL 1, “Guarantee” of 15,000” miles of protection.
Step 3. YOU have taken your next “STEP” to help everybody save “40,000,000” million gallons of refined OIL in the next 12 months.
Step 4. This “Simple Process” directly saves you “$118.44” every year and “You only visit your Friendly Oil Changer” every 15,000 miles.
Step 5. When this “Simple Process” is started, the owners of ALL participating vehicles are jointly involved in reducing $500,000,000 of “OUR” money leaving our county every Year!
Currently you pay, Wal Mart, ($31.65 w/tax) and ($3.00) for one trip to Wal Mart, to change your imported oil at or any other business. (Quoted-8/30/08) Every “3000” thousand miles, you typically spend $158.25 per year for five oil change’s every 15,000 miles of travel. NOW you only spend ($73.37 for every “15,000” miles) (instead of $158.25 every 15,000 miles). You save ($84.90 per year) and five hours wasted in the “Waiting in oil line”. (Approximately, 60,450,300 oil changes occurred at Wal Mart last year) and will collectively (save all OIL CHANGERS/owners $15,112,825). (These MILLIONS OF DOLLARS stay in your wallet, “NOT THE OIL CHANGING COMPANIES”)
The “5 or more” quarts of oil used in these car or trucks equals “302,256,550” quarts of oil WASTED! (Most HD trucks require 15 quarts of oil) (All vehicles built in the last 8 years explain in the owner’s manual about using “Full Synthetic oil, in place of typical motor oil. (IF NEEDING TO COMFIRM, SIMPLY ASK THE DEALER OR LOOK IN YOUR OWNERS MANUEL)
EACH OF US undertakes “ONE” simple act using “Mobil 1,Full Synthetic Mobil 1” and America can “END” the importing of 75,564,125 MILLION gallons of Oil and KEEP “$15,112,825 MILLION dollars in OUR individual wallets”.
NO subservient actions to any government or COUNTRY! YOUR Actions define your “BACKBONE”. I ALREADY PRACTICE WHAT I PREACH. YES, every time you change oil and use the method explained above YOU will decrease the” WASTE of OIL” per car, by 4 gallon’s or more, PER YEAR! Anachronism
IF YOUR CAR USES EXCESSIVE OIL, CHECK OIL LEVEL EVERY 1,000 MILES AND “TOP OFF” AS NEEDED TO PROTECT YOUR ENGINE!
BUSINESS REASONS FOR Wal Mart Tire & Lube, Express is shown NEXT: I worked in this industry and or for Wal Mart for 15 months and carefully documented all the information displayed. Yes, it is true in all respects as to the amount of oil per user to “DECREASE” the amount of imported/domestic oil usage by the simple alteration of “Inputted” actions and our lack of same induced by the companies polices to maintain their “Market Share” and the “Easy” cash flow derived.
The underlying business element is related to the sale of “Batteries, Tire’s and sundry supplies with a 100% “Plus markup which is totally derived from the “Oil Change” which is a “Loss Leader” to drive overall sales in the store. You “ DRIVE IN” alone or your family as three other occupants with you and “Wait” for “YOUR” car which derives a “SUPER” bonus by having a captive “Customer Group” for an average of 45 minutes per client’s car.
If the workload time frame exceeds, 45 minutes, per vehicle they “MAY” give you a “discount “if” you complain. The discount could be 10% or $3.00, BUT they have captured you in their “Store” for other sales and they “Gladly” give you the refund. Only 1% ever complain about the time and people gladly “Sit and Wait” or shop.
: YES, every time you change oil and use the method explained, YOU will decrease the” WASTE of OIL” per car, by 4 gallon’s or more, PER YEAR!
Sorry it took me so long to respond, but I really do appreciate all the info. on Salem and your area of MO! Sounds like a pretty neat place, and I'll be checking into it further. Some aspects sound alot like here - like Walmart being the main place to shop and not many jobs, but I will also consider Rolla.
One thing I'm looking for is having some "progressive" type folks around, such as yourself, and what I consider myself to be - haha. Around here, Austin is very progressive, live-and-let-live and diverse, but with an expensive cost-of-living. Out here in the hills it's a little cheaper but almost as high to live, and most people are rather conventional/conservative and either well-off or else close relatives of Jeff Foxworthy - if you know what I mean! 60 miles distance makes a big difference in overall lifestyles and attitudes.
Very cool that the Dillards were/are native to your area! I always enjoyed their music on the AGS, and wish they'd featured them more. They seemed excellent musicians and ahead of their time - progressive bluegrass with traditional roots, way before that became more mainstream.
BTW, I'm also originally from the upper Midwest near your old stompin' ground of Chicago. I grew up in southern WI, near Milwaukee, but have lived in TX for many years - first in Houston area, then out here. My wife is native Texan and grew up near here. We've also lived and worked in NJ and in Seattle, WA area. Awesome Summers there, and I really didn't mind the Winter rain too much, but again - VERY high cost of housing and land with lots of suburban sprawl.
Better get back to work. Good to chat, and please feel free to correspond. God Bless! -Bob-
A tree is so much more.

thanksAlex
Great Idea....
So why dont we create another "Earth day" Holiday and call it TSO Day or Green Day. We would advertise on tv, radio, internet, and billboards...Green Only on that day like no driving, no buying gas whatsoever, install an R/E item in your home, no lights, no cooking, save energy, have Tons of Eco-Events at local parks that showcase Renewable Energy businesses and Technology...and of course, A Pickens Plan Tent - with bands, clothing and food vendors, scooter, hybrid and electric car presentations, the works !!! (do they even sell TPP shirts?) Also a Hazardous Materials Collection (batteries, computer equip, paint, cf bulbs etc) If we get members from all 52 states to join a group called TSO Day(?) and plan it there, we should be able to pull one off before the end of this year.....(and if its before Nov 4th - wherever the Candidates are that day, they had better attend the event closest to them ) If not then, we wait and we can maybe just use April 20th (the real earth day) and just ask the POTUS to send his wife to the DC event as his representative !! i am sure someone has a better name in mind! Maybe even just "Green Day" like the group and ask them to play there
Lets Get Creative =)
I spent $40,000 to build the complete project in Centralia, Wa. In 1981 we sold this project for $240,000, and retired for the third time.
Look for used materials and be creative in you endeavor. Go to building supply stores like Home Depot and they have tons of slightly bent rebar for $.20 on the dollar. Lumber and other items like cabinets, fixtures and light you can purchase cheap. Example: my first house was a granary built in 1889 that I purchased in 1963 for $100 and made it into a home that we sold for $75,000. LOOK for the odd things and make them useful ! Our third house was built from the truck loads of used materials from my warehouse project, a used drive-up bank and two truck loads of NEW cabinets from a lumber company when they changed vendors. I received 30 tons of polished granite from a bank remodel which I used for the airtight stove area in this hose and received it for hauling it home. BE CREATIVE and ASK for stuff. It is everywhere!
Anachronism
#1-When and before you enter your attic space, make sure you have proper light to observe all elements of your attic and the area where you will work.
#2--You must use safe working planks to safely span the work area (Your attic is probably the structure that contains the insulation, wiring, heat ducts and other elements of the ceiling structure) so that you “DO NOT DAMAGE ANY OF YOUR FINISHED INTERIOR STRUCTURE”.
#3_If you have a “Downdraft” furnace system with the return air piping going to your current heating system, you want to enter this duct return as close to the furnace as possible.
#4th-Closer to the main suction point, more Passive Heat is “Pulled into” your house.
#5th-Start your upper suction position of the intake pipe at least 24” to 30” to draw from the “Hottest” collection point in the typical pitched roof area inside.
#6-If needed, place a short piece of metal ductwork into the new suction pipe to keep the flexible unit from sucking in and blocking the entering position.
#7-Carefully attach to “Suction pipe” to keep it straight and proceed to the position where you enter the “return air line” and use suitable adaptor to the return air duct into your existing furnace system.
#8-Pick a location for you “Remote” sensor control inside your home and connect the wiring to the sensor inside your attic located at a distance of 36” to the side of your new intake pipe and level with the opening located in the attic.
#9-Follow instruction with the sensor and connect your wiring from the attic remote sensor to the “Sensor” unit.
#10-Attach low voltage (dual wire) from the sensor to the connection in your furnace in the same position your house or current interior thermostat is currently connected.
#11—CONSULATE LOCAL ELECTRICAN IF NEEDED TO HOOK UP THESE LOW-VOLTAGE WIRES IF NECESSARY!!!!!
#12- Make sure to support the new pipe with suitable material and DON’T crush the pipe.
13-Make sure the connection into your current intake pipe is airtight and don’t damage either piping.
14-NOW you need to close any current ATTIC venting opening in the gable ends to “CREATE YOUR PASSIVE SOLAR HEATER”. Understand that this is legal as you have now “CREATED A POSTIVE ATTIC REMOVEAL SYSTEM OF HEATED AIR”
15-Go to the 10-pictures on Anachronism and notice my designed “Intake” opening are located at the topside of the attic ceiling structure. This allows the “COMPLETE ATTIC AREA” serve as a solar collector.
16-IF you don’t have a forced air furnace and currently use electric baseboard heaters you need to pick a location in your ceiling that allows the most equalized location to bring your attic heat into your home.
17-You pick a location that equalizes the distribution within the room and, “if needed” use a pipe with holes around the pipe to cause the air to disperse and direct downward to the floor area. You figure out this problem to fit you house.
18. Use the defined “Inline Suction Motor” and consult your local electrician to make the electrical connections to this motor and use a suitable electrical switch to the “Remote Sensor” to make automatic or simply use a wall switch to operate this “Inline Suction Motor” by hand.
---You decide whether you want automatic or manual---
19-Trim out the inside “exhaust opening” to a neat and clean appearance to finish the job.
20-You just created a “Passive Solar Heating System!”
(Remember you “MUST” have air movement into the attic space from either the eaves or at the bottom of the gable ends to allow air to enter the attic space to allow your system to function. NOTICE the location on each of the project’s air intakes, I designed, built and controlled every aspect to create those solar projects.)
Sincerely, Anachronism
We all share the same goal; to rid ourselves of foreign oil and clean up our environment for our children and grandchildren. Wind energy is a viable alternative. Some of us have a different ideas of what we can do for immediate relief.
Check out our group "Live Carbon Free" and see how we are promoting conservation and environmental stewardship as the bridge to future energy developments. Regardless of what we do, it will take some time to implement on a significant scale. For immediate results we can make a huge difference by conserving what we have.
We would like for you to join our group and value your input. Feel free to add me as a friend.
http://www.push.pickensplan.com/group/livecarbonfree
Wayne
Something about your post made me want to quote lyrics from "Big yellow taxi"???
They took all the trees
Put em in a tree museum
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see em
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
Not sure what made me do that :^)
You expressed what many, many are saying. Most people can't build a wind turbine, get solar, etc. By banding together on Pickens Plan, we can share ideas and express our feeling to the elected officials.
I have learned so much..like I didn't know there were smaller solar panels people use on RVs. Most of the technical stuff goes over my head.
Isn't Salem near Rolla? Or St. James? I love the ice-cream at Ruby's in St. James.
Linda