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- Are you interested in becoming an organizer in your area?
- No
- Tell us about your experience with alternative energy:
- Studied in school, know the technology, I am a scientist and engineer (several disciplines)
- What excites you about this campaign?
- Only if it get the most efficient fuel and lubicant to market ---oil
- What do you want to do to help?
- Educate people about REAL SCIENCE not the POLITICAL SCIENCE crap about CO2 being a pollutant. Man Made climate change may be political science, but it is NOT real science.
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Pickens and Pelosi, making money the old fashion way...
Hey Team Pickens...can I get in on the cherry pick IPOs of your company too?...Pelosi will make sure oil (sorry, still a whole lot around) stays high and we can make money off the market. The little guy will have to pay more, but hey, we're saving the planet, we can do anything in the name of saving the planet, right? Even unnecessarily lower the average folk's standard of living. Won't effect Pelosi and Pickens though, they is making money big time!
Posted on August 18, 2008 at 11:31pm — 2 Comments
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You counter my ideas by going on with the "global warming is a hoax, we need to use oil" point...
It seems to me like you are ignoring the positive merits of conservation, and just seizing the opportunity to jump on your pro-oil soap-box.
You have a point you want to make, I have one too... I've conceded your point about global warming. I disagree, but I know that its not an argument I'll be able to win. I'm pretty sure any sources I give you will be dismissed (because you've seen them already, I'll bet)
Anyway, you still havent addressed my main points. I'm fairly sure we'll need to use oil for a while... why not use less? On a personal level, and on a national level, whats wrong with conservation if its cost-effective?
I've increased my gas mileage by about 15%, and I've lowered my electric bill by somewhere around 10%. If Mr. Pickens can help lower our national dependance on foreign oil by even a little but, its a good thing.
You still have done nothing to address any of that.
I'm sorry my comment on your forum came off a little more nasty than I intended... I was trying to say that you really should check your grammar. It really does detract from any points you are trying to make. I'm sorry the way in which I said it came off as a personal attack.
HOWEVER
None of your points address the political and national security benefits of being less dependant on foreign oil, especially when that oil is from a region that is so volatile.
None of your points address the fact that lowering your electric bill by conserving energy is an easily achievable thing.
None of your points address how saving money by increasing your gas mileage is also an easily achievable thing.
Give ME the truth...
However, none of your points address the political and national security benefits of being less dependant on foreign oil, especially when that oil is from a region that is so volatile.
Also, none of your points address the fact that lowering your electric bill by conserving energy is an easily achievable thing... and none of your points address how saving money by increasing your gas mileage is also an easily achievable thing...
I agree that we will continue to use oil and other fossil fuesl for alot of things. I do however, see the political sense in using less... use a little more wind and solar to supplement our oil use so we are a little bit less dependant on imported oil from the middle east.
Aside from all the global warming stuff (apparently you dont believe in global warming... we can agree to disagree there... I'm not gonna get into a debate with you about that, I know I cant change your mind and you cant change mine) The political benefits and the national security benefits of being somewhat less dependant on foreign oil are obvious (especially when you consider that the foreign oil is largely coming from a region that is pretty volatile.)
I believe we learn more from those we disagree with than we learn from those we agree with... I hope you can be involved in a fact-based discussion without getting offended or getting personal.