Hey KKY,
I've been looking at the picture of the contraption you have for your picture and the only thing I can think of is an old Peter, Paul & Mary song about a machine that goessomething like "reing when it stops whir when it starts and ????? when it stood stood still, I never knew just what it was and I guess I never will."
I Give up, What the hell is that contraption?
Thanks,
Richard
Here is a site that carries the quote you asked for. it is NOT the site that I got it from originally, but you will get the gist of the conversation from here.
The Deuceman
At 3:02pm on September 10, 2008, Nate Kirchner said…
the tourism business would be cool from the 8 winged windmill beast but its revenue would be minimal, thanks for the feedback! and the humor.
At 7:49am on September 3, 2008, seth sprouse said…
Skeptical about wind resources in Kentucky???
Right. because there aren't any. LOL.
Black mountain might be right for large wind, most of Kentucky would work for small wind/distributed power stuff, but mainly Kentucky is right for a call center and centralized warehousing for projects in other states. Kentucky mesonet will at least help us determine small wind/ distributed power locations. It's a start.
Kentucky coal is going to give any competition a hard go at things. Hence the widely accepted notion that Kentucky is a poor state for anything power wise besides coal and oil and gas.
We need better data before we make those assumptions.
Thank you for the add.
If you have any ideas or concepts you feel would help Kentucky I would love to listen.
Seth
What does the PickenPlan mean to Northern Kentucky?
We have very little in the way of local Wind Power, but, if coal continues it's recent rise in price it may become economical to import Wind power to the area. In a battle between remote Wind and remote coal, Wind wins. Either way our high 90% local reliance on coal is drawing to a close. Even though we are not an ideal place for solar it may become cost competitive with remote Wind. It will even make the spare energy from Biochar attractive.
On the natural gas part of the plan. We have local understanding of it. We had gaslight streets before electric was common. Many of us still use it to heat our homes. The fact that we burn it on the inside of our houses venting the exhaust to the open air outside demonstrates how clean it is. It's not as clean as solar or wind but it beats coal, wood, and gasoline hands down for clean.
"Since I have natural gas in the house would I be filling up at home?" If you really want to, yes. But the cost of installation of the pump may not be worth it. However even though to my knowledge we have not one natural gas filling station in the area they can be set up quickly since the gas pipes run just about everywhere in the area.
Now this means that we have a new competitor for the natural gas that heats our home and water. Until the last couple of years using natural gas for home and water heating has been the cheap way. A combination of the world using more of it and a many new natural gas plants increased the price. If our energy hungry cars start eating the supply I would assume that we will not return to a time where natural gas is cheaper than electric. Also considering that electric is being squeezed by coal prices and pollution policies it looks like many more of us will be looking into passive solar heating.
This will make local biochar more valuable as the syngas produced in it's creation is being used by the local utility and may function in natural gas vehicles as well.
Either way the time when these decisions will need to be addressed will be within the next few years.
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I've been looking at the picture of the contraption you have for your picture and the only thing I can think of is an old Peter, Paul & Mary song about a machine that goessomething like "reing when it stops whir when it starts and ????? when it stood stood still, I never knew just what it was and I guess I never will."
I Give up, What the hell is that contraption?
Thanks,
Richard
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Here is a site that carries the quote you asked for. it is NOT the site that I got it from originally, but you will get the gist of the conversation from here.
The Deuceman
Right. because there aren't any. LOL.
Black mountain might be right for large wind, most of Kentucky would work for small wind/distributed power stuff, but mainly Kentucky is right for a call center and centralized warehousing for projects in other states. Kentucky mesonet will at least help us determine small wind/ distributed power locations. It's a start.
Kentucky coal is going to give any competition a hard go at things. Hence the widely accepted notion that Kentucky is a poor state for anything power wise besides coal and oil and gas.
We need better data before we make those assumptions.
Thank you for the add.
If you have any ideas or concepts you feel would help Kentucky I would love to listen.
Seth
We have very little in the way of local Wind Power, but, if coal continues it's recent rise in price it may become economical to import Wind power to the area. In a battle between remote Wind and remote coal, Wind wins. Either way our high 90% local reliance on coal is drawing to a close. Even though we are not an ideal place for solar it may become cost competitive with remote Wind. It will even make the spare energy from Biochar attractive.
On the natural gas part of the plan. We have local understanding of it. We had gaslight streets before electric was common. Many of us still use it to heat our homes. The fact that we burn it on the inside of our houses venting the exhaust to the open air outside demonstrates how clean it is. It's not as clean as solar or wind but it beats coal, wood, and gasoline hands down for clean.
"Since I have natural gas in the house would I be filling up at home?" If you really want to, yes. But the cost of installation of the pump may not be worth it. However even though to my knowledge we have not one natural gas filling station in the area they can be set up quickly since the gas pipes run just about everywhere in the area.
Now this means that we have a new competitor for the natural gas that heats our home and water. Until the last couple of years using natural gas for home and water heating has been the cheap way. A combination of the world using more of it and a many new natural gas plants increased the price. If our energy hungry cars start eating the supply I would assume that we will not return to a time where natural gas is cheaper than electric. Also considering that electric is being squeezed by coal prices and pollution policies it looks like many more of us will be looking into passive solar heating.
This will make local biochar more valuable as the syngas produced in it's creation is being used by the local utility and may function in natural gas vehicles as well.
Either way the time when these decisions will need to be addressed will be within the next few years.