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There's an awful lot of talk, but we don't hear much from folks that have actually bought.
Would someone that has actually installed a system care to comment?
nanotechnology, in the solar electric collection field. in home applications and business settings. the price will get driven down yet.
Greg, I can answer some of these questions for you. We buy solar panels mono/poly, which is about $3 per watt, .amorphorous which is $2.50 per watt CIF CA. I have been installing small 24V wind generators for about $5 per watt completely installed.…
Well Paul,
You are right and no matter how you cut the watts it really makes no sense unless you are young enough and want to stay in the same home long enough to get the benefit of solar power because it cost so much money. Anyone who is not in for…
Another company that wanted to take over the solar company I worked for. Needless to say, funding didn't come through. HOWEVER, we have the piliot program up and running (or so I'm told) at Towson University. There is a demo in April with investors…
Depending on your system, six squares (600 square feet) of PV will cost the installer about $50,000 ( $60-75,00 to you). Depending too on your location and sunshine quotient, you'll need 4-6 squares for a 2,100 sq. ft. home. Cost is best rolled into…
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- Are you interested in becoming an organizer in your area?
- Yes
- Tell us about your experience with alternative energy:
- I have wanted to install solar panels or wind generators on my land to get away from paying the electric bill, don't have the money. I have made small hydrogen generators just messing around to see if I could make enough to run a small engine without success. I want so badly to stop supporting the Middle East, I just don't have the money to develop a way to beat the cornered market of oil. I have thought of making ethanol, but I don't believe I could make it cost effective.
- What excites you about this campaign?
- I like the idea of getting away from foreign oil and I feel that natural gas is a good start if we can get the auto industry to start building cars to run on natural gas, propane gas, ethanol, and batteries so we the consumers have the choice of what type of vehicle we want to drive. Right now I have just 2 choices of what type of fuel I want to burn and that is a cornered market if I ever saw one. When I was in the 5th grade I was taught we would be building all new houses with solar panels because we would be out of oil in 20 years. Well obviously this didn't happen with the solar or the oil. I call an energy star home a home with a solar panel or wind turbine to help stop the electric meter. I see a future where there will be choices and the oil companies struggling to compete and that excites me.
- What do you want to do to help?
- I would like to start a business building wind turbines, solar panels, making ethanol, or converting vehicles to run on natural and or propane gas. I would like to somehow be a part of putting the oil companies out of business. I would like to help make our country free again.
Energy Party for Idaho
I wrote a discussion for that energy party and I would encourage everyone on my page to check it out and invite as many people as you like including Mr. Pickins himself to see this discussion. Maybe I should start a vote group for the Pickins Plan. Let me know what you all think of this Idea. We will make this plan happen if we do this in very large numbers. You will find my discussion at the bottom of the page in ENERGY PARTY for IDAHO. By the way, We need to get everyone we can involved in all the energy groups for every state in the union. This could be a way for all the states to work on a Pickins Plan vote and post results on the main energy party page.
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- At 11:04am on October 4, 2009,
Paul Bravell said… - An Australian won a award for his (very) low cost solar collector using Beer cans.
Cheers!
- At 3:01pm on February 21, 2009,
Chuck Moore said… - Greg, I designed hundreds of standalone solar systems for a nationwide Traffic Information telematics company. We had very strict requirement regarding days of autonomy and in Great Lake area there was minimal solar insolation. I used a software package from Maui Solar Energy Software Corporation. Common solar panels, batteries, regulators, etc. are included in the package. The software allows one to design standalone, grid based and hybrid systems. The software is very reasonable in price.
I have been checking for current solar panel prices and it looks like approx. $5 /watt for top quality panels is the going rate. Installed prices could top$9/watt for pole mounted trancking or non-tracking systems.
The Sunelec's panels will work for me but for commerical/gov work only the top grade ones will be acceptable. Out where you live the solar insolation is very much higher than here so you would probably need fewer panels.
Wind is a very real and acceptable addition into the mix. You get a lot of amps from a small generator with a 2 meter blade at about 15mph wind.
- At 11:28am on February 21, 2009,
Chuck Moore said…
- Greg, thanks for the tip on sunelec.com. I completed designing hundreds of sites for my former employer throughout the USA. We used BP by customer request. Their panels were similar to BP3135 except 105W and the price went from about $280 at the start to $750 at the end of the project.
Have you used the panels provided by SunElec?
- At 4:20pm on February 16, 2009,
Lainey Howard said… - Hey Greg!
Come check out the Energy Party Headquarters!
http://energyparty.ning.com/
Hope to see you there!
- At 2:06pm on February 14, 2009,
Thomas Peterson said… - Hi Greg,
I want to personally thank you for joining the SEE effort here on the PP. Haven't heard much from you lately, but if you have any energy that you might want to put in the direction of SEE (ie. getting friends to join, etc.), it would be greatly appreciated.
FYI: We are now expanding SEE to be able to grow a membership beyond the Picken’s Plan. Please come visit us at the Global SEE and invite your PP and personal friends to also visit.
Global SEE site << http://seadog8278.ning.com >>
Sincerely,
Thomas Peterson
- At 10:59am on February 14, 2009,
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- At 6:51pm on January 27, 2009,
Michael Shawn Kendall said… - Hi Greg, Here is a way to help and give tools to all of us for getting more RE projects started. I have been pushing for the sell of US Treasury "Energy Independence Savings Bonds". Savings bonds are normally purchased in $25 increments. This gives a way for just about any American to tighten their belts just a bit by skipping a meal at McDonalds or Pizza Hut and buying a RE savings bond to support a project. I need help pushing this project in Washington DC, I've faxed and emailed many in Congress/Senate already and need others to do the same. My email is ke6cvh@yahoo.com. Here is a copy of a fax sent to Nancy Pelosi yesterday:
27FEB09
Honorable Speaker of the House Congresswoman Pelosi,
I am an Electronic Technician Chief in the US Navy with 27 years service stationed overseas. I’m outlying an idea to assist and work with current plans for achieving energy independence. I urge you, as speaker of the house and the driving force to form the select committee on energy independence and global warming, consider for discussion and introduction into the house US Treasury Savings Bonds for Energy Independance.
In WWII America sold war bonds supporting the war effort. When young, my mother told me her primary school raised enough money through bonds to build a tank to support troops. I am impressed with the patriotism and purpose of our greatest generation that accomplished so much.
Selling energy bonds for RE (Renewable Energy) development would lower foreign oil imports and assist with the complex problem of funding. Bonds sold as “Energy S” could support new solar trough plants, “Energy W” to support wind farms, Energy “H” to support hydroelectric plants, Energy “T” to support RE transportation such as electric bullet train routes powered by RE, Energy "C" COOPS for small communities only needing a small quantity of turbines, and Energy “I” for needed infrastructure high voltage power lines to the RE site. Bonds will have the project name and include an artist’s perspective of the project and an American flag. President Obama had great success with the internet during his campaign. In a similar manner, using the internet, energy bonds could have a website listing current projects and an “electronic checkout” could purchase a bond $25 or higher. Simpler methods of payment such as “PAYPAL” and credit cards would be available and after an electronic purchase is complete a color print out of the bond is available with a follow up of the bond in the mail. The website would limit quantity of projects for each category until funding is complete. After a project becomes funded, a new project will be available. A tab on the site will show history and status of previous projects. Purchasers may take great pride in “collecting” and displaying bonds of various RE projects and participating at different levels of financial support. Solar trough plants in the multi-hundred MW size capacity with molten salt energy storage in California, Arizona, and West Texas can provide a major portion of electric needs. North Dakota has potential to support 1/3 of our nations electric needs in it’s class 4 wind zone areas. There are plenty of suitable proposed wind turbine farms now around the nation to significantly increase our RE if funded. Mid sized hydro-electric has not been used in America to it’s full potential. Following the example of our neighbor, Canada, it would provide a significant increase in percentage of electric production. Developing all three we could provide the majority of our electric and heating needs through renewable energy in a "New New Deal" fashion allowing natural gas for transportation as T. Boone Pickens is working for. Bullet train routes have proven a viable alternative to commercial domestic air service and when powered by electricity provided by RE suppliers America would be in the forefront of world technology. Example, I heard of discussion for a commuter train from Denver to Colorado Springs. Such a route built as a renewable energy project with charter requirement legally requiring to only purchase electricity from available renewable energy sources would be a model example. There are many train routes, city bus systems, and government vehicles that can be converted to run from alternative energy sources and fuels. Jobs created would bolster the economy, lower trade deficit, and strengthen national security. I would take great pride in print outs of bonds with graphics of each project I supported and many other Americans would also. The energy bonds could have tax breaks. BLM lands may be a viable place to start for some projects.
I contacted the US treasury department and was told that the marketing department for savings bonds closed several years ago. I was told there would be problems because savings bonds are at the federal level while the projects will be at the state and local level. I disagree and believe that these can easily be figured out in the way of grants to the state and local level using money from the bonds for those specific projects. I was told to check out auctions on the www.treasurydirect.gov website and found them to not apply to citizens wanting to buy savings bonds to support a cause such as energy independance. I was told by the treasury department to look into CREB (Clean Renewable Energy Bonds). I found CREB to be large scale funding that a citizen would not be able to participate in as a US Treasury Energy Independance Bond would provide. If given the tools to participate directly, the power of the citizens of the United States to help achieve energy independance could not be denied. Americans mean well and the Energy Independance Savings bond program will give citizens the power at their level to make it happen. If marketed through a web page, commercials, and to federal employees the word would get out and participation would spread like wildfire.
Mr. Paul Gipe, a resident of Bakersfield CA, an author of several books about wind energy, and recipient of multiple awards as a pioneer in the industry since the 1970's has put a letter I wrote to Senator Dorgan on this subject as well as an older letter I wrote on wind COOP in JAN07. These websites are:
http://www.wind-works.org/coopwind/RenewableEnergyBondsforEnergyIndependence.html
and
http://www.wind-works.org/articles/AmericanEnergyIndependencethroughCooperativeInvestmentinWindEnergy.html
Sincerely and very respectfully,
ETC(SW/AW) Mike Kendall USN
Mailing address: PSC 476, Box 879, FPO AP, 96322 USA
Telephone (803) 265-4756, Email: ke6cvh@yahoo.com
- At 5:16pm on January 27, 2009,
Corrina said… - Hi Greg
Our we going to put a few bumps in the road so people will listen.
Corrina
- At 12:10am on January 26, 2009,
Tim Boyd said… - Greg
Can you give me an email address, are you set up on skype? I would like to discuss many things with you. We can set up non-disclosure agreements. I am designing concentrator configurations that involve photovoltaic panels and heat engines. I have tha FEA capacity to simulate thermal loading and optimize heat sinking and many other things nessesary to make radical designs work. Do you have a web site? My email is tboydlaser@aol.com
Thanks
Tim
- At 9:30am on January 25, 2009,
JD Polk said… - I have an agenda.....
My life's goal is to have all residential property co-generating electricity in North America by 2025. Little know fact it's only 25% of entire North American Grid Consumption.
This is attainable we have the technology and the man-power.....
We must start now!!!! Time for talk is over.....
I have introduced the Boldest Solar/Housing Initiative ever put forth...
Entire subdivisions of low-cost Modulars with little to no electric bill that retail from $79,900 to $149,900 680sq 2/1 to 1380sq 3/2.
Meets the need for low-cost housing and helps over Stressed Grid during PEAK_USAGE hrs as entire subdivisions come on-line becoming virtual mini-generating stations.
As well as helps the environment…
Win-win-win.
It is the short term solution to a long term problem.......
I need more R & D with my new patent Idea an will be asking for Ga Tech's help.....with the SOLAR POWERED HYBRID HYDROKINETIC RECIRCULATING GENERATOR which will drive the cost of production down by almost 60% and will also be going back to Washington DC
I am in negotiations with Roger Little of Spire Solar in Mass to build a 100mw PV manufacturing plant in Liberty County Ga.
My plan is simple mix Roger's little assembly line with RapidModular.com's walling panels to produce under one roof the
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