Hydrogen Cars, the Computer Printer Equivalent of the Auto Industry?
THE KEY HURDLE in the hydrogen economy is this:
If we change to hydrogen - - besides it being VERY expensive relative to a plug-in hybrid ($ 2.50 electricity/100 miles - - before we have a true EXCESS of clean-made electricity (PROJECTED IN 2050), THIS WILL CAUSE A BOTTOM-LINE INCREASE IN CO2 and would therefore negate the non-polluting effect of hydrogen cars.
We keep seeing a strange, unexplained push towards hydrogen. Big business (auto industry, oil) apparently can't have it that people have cars for which they can make their own fuel (electricity from their own rooftop PV systems, $ 2.50/100 miles). Hydrogen as fuel is estimated (at the pump) to cost $ 6.00 and up for a gallon equivalent. Who would buy this overpriced and dangerous fuel, also knowing that it pollutes with CO2(?) - - unless there is no alternative ( auto makers literally refusing to produce plug-in hybrids)????
Are hydrogen cars the equivalent of today's computer printers? After buying one you keep getting milked by having to buy expensive printer cartridges (hydrogen gas)!
If we change to hydrogen - - besides it being VERY expensive relative to a plug-in hybrid ($ 2.50 electricity/100 miles - - before we have a true EXCESS of clean-made electricity (PROJECTED IN 2050), THIS WILL CAUSE A BOTTOM-LINE INCREASE IN CO2 and would therefore negate the non-polluting effect of hydrogen cars.
We keep seeing a strange, unexplained push towards hydrogen. Big business (auto industry, oil) apparently can't have it that people have cars for which they can make their own fuel (electricity from their own rooftop PV systems, $ 2.50/100 miles). Hydrogen as fuel is estimated (at the pump) to cost $ 6.00 and up for a gallon equivalent. Who would buy this overpriced and dangerous fuel, also knowing that it pollutes with CO2(?) - - unless there is no alternative ( auto makers literally refusing to produce plug-in hybrids)????
Are hydrogen cars the equivalent of today's computer printers? After buying one you keep getting milked by having to buy expensive printer cartridges (hydrogen gas)!
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Comment by Dr. Hans J. Kugler, PhD on November 11, 2008 at 12:13pm -
I tried that HHO - - car alternator electricity supplies the energy to hydrolyze water to H and oxygen - - but it apparently only works with real old engines (not run by computers). In newer cars it apparently screws up the ignition.
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Comment by PickensIdaho Group on November 10, 2008 at 11:09pm -
Absolutely right on. Hydrogen by itself is NOT the answer. However HHO gas can be made directly from water at fairly low cost and with no carbon footprint. Also with some research I believe it is possible to produce hydrogen peroxide from water with no carbon, using a palladium catalyst- I'm not the expert. Both of these waterfuels can be stored fairly safely at room temperature using fairly ordinary materials, unlike hydrogen. There are people using HHO gas from on-board generators to improve mileage and reduce emissions since the HHO burns more powerfully and cleanly than gasoline or deisel although it does require electricity from the alternator, usually generated while idling or cruising.
This is why I am developing the Freedom Engine, which can run on any fuel, liquid or gaseous, fuels with high water content such as biofuels, gasoline, diesel, or even mixtures.
I have posted another blog clarifying some details on the entire automotive and transportation issues. However I would like to simply add that hydrogen cars are not like computer printers, they are far worse.
Kris Metaverso
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