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Hi Gilbert, If you agree with this plan please consider passing to other people in your district as it will be a great tool to get funding for PickensPlan projects. This is a way to help and give tools to all of us for getting more RE projects started. I have been pushing for the sell of US Treasury "Energy Independence Savings Bonds". Savings bonds are normally purchased in $25 increments. This gives a way for just about any American to tighten their belts just a bit by skipping a meal at McDonalds or Pizza Hut and buying a RE savings bond to support a project. I need help pushing this project, I've faxed and emailed many in Congress/Senate already. My email is ke6cvh@yahoo.com. Here is a copy of a fax sent to Nancy Pelosi yesterday:
27FEB09
Honorable Speaker of the House Congresswoman Pelosi,
I am an Electronic Technician Chief in the US Navy with 27 years service stationed overseas. I’m outlying an idea to assist and work with current plans for achieving energy independence. I urge you, as speaker of the house and the driving force to form the select committee on energy independence and global warming, consider for discussion and introduction into the house US Treasury Savings Bonds for Energy Independance.
In WWII America sold war bonds supporting the war effort. When young, my mother told me her primary school raised enough money through bonds to build a tank to support troops. I am impressed with the patriotism and purpose of our greatest generation that accomplished so much.
Selling energy bonds for RE (Renewable Energy) development would lower foreign oil imports and assist with the complex problem of funding. Bonds sold as “Energy S” could support new solar trough plants, “Energy W” to support wind farms, Energy “H” to support hydroelectric plants, Energy “T” to support RE transportation such as electric bullet train routes powered by RE, Energy "C" COOPS for small communities only needing a small quantity of turbines, and Energy “I” for needed infrastructure high voltage power lines to the RE site. Bonds will have the project name and include an artist’s perspective of the project and an American flag. President Obama had great success with the internet during his campaign. In a similar manner, using the internet, energy bonds could have a website listing current projects and an “electronic checkout” could purchase a bond $25 or higher. Simpler methods of payment such as “PAYPAL” and credit cards would be available and after an electronic purchase is complete a color print out of the bond is available with a follow up of the bond in the mail. The website would limit quantity of projects for each category until funding is complete. After a project becomes funded, a new project will be available. A tab on the site will show history and status of previous projects. Purchasers may take great pride in “collecting” and displaying bonds of various RE projects and participating at different levels of financial support. Solar trough plants in the multi-hundred MW size capacity with molten salt energy storage in California, Arizona, and West Texas can provide a major portion of electric needs. North Dakota has potential to support 1/3 of our nations electric needs in it’s class 4 wind zone areas. There are plenty of suitable proposed wind turbine farms now around the nation to significantly increase our RE if funded. Mid sized hydro-electric has not been used in America to it’s full potential. Following the example of our neighbor, Canada, it would provide a significant increase in percentage of electric production. Developing all three we could provide the majority of our electric and heating needs through renewable energy in a "New New Deal" fashion allowing natural gas for transportation as T. Boone Pickens is working for. Bullet train routes have proven a viable alternative to commercial domestic air service and when powered by electricity provided by RE suppliers America would be in the forefront of world technology. Example, I heard of discussion for a commuter train from Denver to Colorado Springs. Such a route built as a renewable energy project with charter requirement legally requiring to only purchase electricity from available renewable energy sources would be a model example. There are many train routes, city bus systems, and government vehicles that can be converted to run from alternative energy sources and fuels. Jobs created would bolster the economy, lower trade deficit, and strengthen national security. I would take great pride in print outs of bonds with graphics of each project I supported and many other Americans would also. The energy bonds could have tax breaks. BLM lands may be a viable place to start for some projects.
I contacted the US treasury department and was told that the marketing department for savings bonds closed several years ago. I was told there would be problems because savings bonds are at the federal level while the projects will be at the state and local level. I disagree and believe that these can easily be figured out in the way of grants to the state and local level using money from the bonds for those specific projects. I was told to check out auctions on the www.treasurydirect.gov website and found them to not apply to citizens wanting to buy savings bonds to support a cause such as energy independance. I was told by the treasury department to look into CREB (Clean Renewable Energy Bonds). I found CREB to be large scale funding that a citizen would not be able to participate in as a US Treasury Energy Independance Bond would provide. If given the tools to participate directly, the power of the citizens of the United States to help achieve energy independance could not be denied. Americans mean well and the Energy Independance Savings bond program will give citizens the power at their level to make it happen. If marketed through a web page, commercials, and to federal employees the word would get out and participation would spread like wildfire.
Mr. Paul Gipe, a resident of Bakersfield CA, an author of several books about wind energy, and recipient of multiple awards as a pioneer in the industry since the 1970's has put a letter I wrote to Senator Dorgan on this subject as well as an older letter I wrote on wind COOP in JAN07. These websites are:
We need to get together.... See the NewGas.biz website. I am actively in the final design stages of what I expect will finally make the CNG car explode in America..
BTW the water cell mostly DOES NOT WORK. More energy in than out. The commercial way of producing hydrogen is to strip the Carbon atom from Methane since it yeilds four Hydrogens for each breakup. The Mythbusters did a series on it using VERY EXACT directions and never got one unit to even come close to generating enough energy to power itself much less a car.
If you live in San Jose and have an interest in small wind turbine power you should call my son, Jeff Gigoux who lives in Saratoga 408 872-3768. Jeff is VP of business development for Mariah Power (google Mariah Power, Reno) There small wind turbine can be an complimentary adjunct to the large wind turbines for homes and small businesses. There is no electrical grid problem associated with the small wind turbines.
The end game in a bigger context is creating jobs and economic recovery. This is what this Alternative Energy is all about. The proposed $150B by the Obama-Biden Energy Plan should include direct assistance to small businesses and individual consultants who are in support of the PickensPlan. President -elect Obama has made several references to his talks with Boone Pickens regarding the PickensPlan. So at least our voice is being heard and hopefully considered. In my opinion, we need to focus our attention first on transportation as it relates to alternative fuels.
Supporting and making existing companies and organizations grow and prosper is the best place for all of us to start. If we can get enough of these existing vehicles that we personally own converted, we will have accomplished something substantial. It will hopefully create jobs and opportunities for these companies as well as save fuel cost to the car owners.
At 10:56am on November 30, 2008, Tai Robinson said…
Gilbert, for lack of a better term, most people call these fuel system upgrades "conversions" we are not converting the engine though unless we start with a diesle engien and add spark plugs to allow the use of gaseous fuels without a baseline fuel for ignition. So, we install aftermarket fuel system upgrades and we provid ethe technician training for peoepl to install our sytems. WE offer franchising of our American Fuel Vehicles and REfuel Centers. We offer the complete package and are end goal is mass prodcution, on the assembly line of multi-fuel vehilces, designed and built for multi-fuels.
We are the only CNG upfitters that are members of the Society of Automotive Engineeers. This is our life, we are doing it and we are looking to expand to help more people chosse the clenaerr, safer, local fuels for transportation requirements.
Thank You!
Tai
At 10:57pm on November 29, 2008, Tai Robinson said…
It's an interesting outline - and presumably you have a brief introduction as to the point of the business plan. In any case, I wonder why you posted it to my page - and not here (in a blog for example).
Clynton
At 11:59pm on November 27, 2008, Tai Robinson said…
Fred Robinson has been working to convert standard automobiles to run on alternative fuels for more than 30 years. The Stagecoach-area resident lives in a solar-powered home he built himself and converted a 2003 Hummer H2 so it can run on several different fuels, including hydrogen and ethanol. Unleaded is an option, too, he said, when he finds himself far from an alternative-fuel station. — Photo by Joel Reichenberger
Local continues lifetime of work in alternative fuels
By Margaret Hair The Steamboat Pilot
STEAMBOAT SPRINGS, Colo. -- In Fred Robinson's auto repair shop near Stagecoach, items that can run on alternative fuels abound.
There's the H2-H2, a Hummer Robinson converted to run on a combination of hydrogen, natural gas, ethanol and gasoline. There's the H-racer, a tiny hydrogen fuel cell car made by Horizon Fuel Cell Technologies. And there's the wood-burning stove pumping warm air into the room -- it's not burning a fossil fuel, so Robinson says it counts as alternative.
A busted-up Volkswagen that Robinson has been repairing rests on a jack on the shop floor; the three decades of car parts and alternative fuel memorabilia line the walls.
Click here to find out more!
Weaning the world off petroleum has been a passion for Robinson since 1975, when he worked with a friend in Tampa Bay, Fla., to convert a diesel engine to run partially on natural gas. The next year, he built a solar-powered house in Henderson Park, with picture windows offering sunlight for heat and views of the now defunct Stagecoach ski area.
As the founder of Inter-galactic Hydrogen -- a car conversion and educational company he runs with his son, Tai -- Robinson experienced a surge of interest in his varied knowledge of alternative fuel sources this spring, when national gas price averages topped the $4-per-gallon mark.
"I did a lot of presentations during that period," Robinson said, explaining that interest in his resources is closely linked with increasing and decreasing prices for fossil fuels. That interest has waned recently, as national gas price averages have declined.
"We have a message. And right now, with cheap gasoline, nobody's listening," Robinson said, adding that while some interest remains, he's not getting as many calls to convert gasoline engines to run on natural gas. Last summer, he worked on four such conversions.
In his workshop on a recent Thursday afternoon, Robinson proudly displayed a collection of "thank you" cards he had picked up from Steamboat Springs Middle School the day before. He said the sixth-grade students asked more direct questions about how cars can run on hydrogen than many adults do.
"I've been doing this around here for five years, and this is the biggest reward I've gotten so far," Robinson said, holding an oversized card decorated with markers. Since he worked on his first diesel engine conversion more than 30 years ago, Robinson has devoured information coming out of the world of alternative fuels, reading about the subject and going to as many fuel meetings and energy conferences as he could afford.
"I've just fallen into it. There were several times where I've been in the right place at the right time, and it's just meant to be," he said, explaining his seemingly effortless understanding about the scientific processes that allow 20 percent of a ground-up tree to be converted into usable hydrogen, or make it possible for algae to produce renewable fuels.
Robinson's persistence in seeking funding and curiosity for that science has paid off. In his next project, he plans to convert two diesel trucks to run on natural gas. The hope is to work hydrogen into the mix as a primary fuel source.
"Hydrogen is our goal; that's the one we want most. But we have to go through the others to get there," Robinson said. Using hydrogen as fuel is expensive, but Robinson thinks that once the infrastructure is there, production prices will decrease. In any case, it's not likely Robinson's desire to build or fix things will fade.
"I've always been a mechanic. As soon as I was old enough to walk and talk, I was playing with cars and making funny noises," he said. Even if -- as Robinson disparagingly said -- he hasn't achieved anything concrete locally, he's sure to keep trying.
"It feels good. It's hard to explain, especially with all the negative publicity about the climate and the politics and the economy, but if I'm driving down the street and I know I'm not using any gasoline, it's really empowering," he said.
Robinson’s efforts to help the world adapt to alternative fuels are big and small. In addition to converting a 2003 Hummer H2 sports utility vehicle to run on alternative fuels, he sells this small hydrogen-powered toy car, which is made by Horizon Fuel Cell Technologies. It hooks to a machine that converts regular water to hydrogen fuel, which is in turn powered by a small solar panel. Photo by Joel Reichenberger
www.IntergalacticHydrogen.com www.AmericanFuelVehicles.com
Gilbert, I have been reading the comments between you and Clynton and I believe that with the internet things change alot faster than the 25 year mark. Good luck to you both and thanks...
Those ideas are great. Might I suggest that you save them in a blog - before they get buried by new comments on my page. After that, we'll need to have the rest of the folks here review and possibly get on board - or at least refine it to a strategy that we can all implement. I'm not sure what the Organization is planning, but they've been very quiet as of late. Post your blog and let's forward it up the chain to see if they will get on board (unless they have some other idea they are planning to go live with).
Thanks Gilbert, but I am much more interested in 1. your take on the report and 2. how we can actually achieve the results we are after. No report, or suggestion to read a report - just like with the various plans you mentioned, can lead to success. Only action can, so what actions do you recommend, and how do we put them into motion?
Gilbert;
I am on my way out right now....but can you tell me if you know how to convert to CNG? I have a Jeep Commander, 06. I've been told there are NO EPA conversion kits for Chrysler... True?
I'm in Santa Barbara. Great to meet you!
Diane
Maybe we can converse later today.
Keep me posted if you happen to find out how President Obama plans to invest those billions. My guess is that it will be through Congress - and then perhaps through the Federal Acquisition process (i.e. FebBizOps.gov), but hopefully the SBA is given direct monies to find and invest in start ups with great potential. Throw the spaghetti against the wall - funding with an initial amount and pour a ton of cash into what sticks... That's probably the best way to get us to the moon in terms of alt-energy replacement of foreign oil.
Reply to angels, eat you alive. I couldn't agree more. What happen to stable long term growth and increasing market share one client at a time. Seems investors want a return now and if they can't get you to do it they use your story and hype it to others and rip them off killing the original idea.
Rant not want not.
IJL Ventures Inc. is ready to go into production and market what it produces, Fuel, Fiber, and Bio polymers. The mills that produce are 0 emission and use non-edible bio-mass. Capital required for 1st phase is 2 million and return on investment based on participation level. Open to dialogue.
Hello Gilbert,
glad to see you joined squidoo, if you need assistance there is quite a bit available. Let them know you were refered by me, (I get brownie points:)) and when you finish your first lens let me know so I can have a look. Take care, stay in touch
Robert West
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Honorable Speaker of the House Congresswoman Pelosi,
I am an Electronic Technician Chief in the US Navy with 27 years service stationed overseas. I’m outlying an idea to assist and work with current plans for achieving energy independence. I urge you, as speaker of the house and the driving force to form the select committee on energy independence and global warming, consider for discussion and introduction into the house US Treasury Savings Bonds for Energy Independance.
In WWII America sold war bonds supporting the war effort. When young, my mother told me her primary school raised enough money through bonds to build a tank to support troops. I am impressed with the patriotism and purpose of our greatest generation that accomplished so much.
Selling energy bonds for RE (Renewable Energy) development would lower foreign oil imports and assist with the complex problem of funding. Bonds sold as “Energy S” could support new solar trough plants, “Energy W” to support wind farms, Energy “H” to support hydroelectric plants, Energy “T” to support RE transportation such as electric bullet train routes powered by RE, Energy "C" COOPS for small communities only needing a small quantity of turbines, and Energy “I” for needed infrastructure high voltage power lines to the RE site. Bonds will have the project name and include an artist’s perspective of the project and an American flag. President Obama had great success with the internet during his campaign. In a similar manner, using the internet, energy bonds could have a website listing current projects and an “electronic checkout” could purchase a bond $25 or higher. Simpler methods of payment such as “PAYPAL” and credit cards would be available and after an electronic purchase is complete a color print out of the bond is available with a follow up of the bond in the mail. The website would limit quantity of projects for each category until funding is complete. After a project becomes funded, a new project will be available. A tab on the site will show history and status of previous projects. Purchasers may take great pride in “collecting” and displaying bonds of various RE projects and participating at different levels of financial support. Solar trough plants in the multi-hundred MW size capacity with molten salt energy storage in California, Arizona, and West Texas can provide a major portion of electric needs. North Dakota has potential to support 1/3 of our nations electric needs in it’s class 4 wind zone areas. There are plenty of suitable proposed wind turbine farms now around the nation to significantly increase our RE if funded. Mid sized hydro-electric has not been used in America to it’s full potential. Following the example of our neighbor, Canada, it would provide a significant increase in percentage of electric production. Developing all three we could provide the majority of our electric and heating needs through renewable energy in a "New New Deal" fashion allowing natural gas for transportation as T. Boone Pickens is working for. Bullet train routes have proven a viable alternative to commercial domestic air service and when powered by electricity provided by RE suppliers America would be in the forefront of world technology. Example, I heard of discussion for a commuter train from Denver to Colorado Springs. Such a route built as a renewable energy project with charter requirement legally requiring to only purchase electricity from available renewable energy sources would be a model example. There are many train routes, city bus systems, and government vehicles that can be converted to run from alternative energy sources and fuels. Jobs created would bolster the economy, lower trade deficit, and strengthen national security. I would take great pride in print outs of bonds with graphics of each project I supported and many other Americans would also. The energy bonds could have tax breaks. BLM lands may be a viable place to start for some projects.
I contacted the US treasury department and was told that the marketing department for savings bonds closed several years ago. I was told there would be problems because savings bonds are at the federal level while the projects will be at the state and local level. I disagree and believe that these can easily be figured out in the way of grants to the state and local level using money from the bonds for those specific projects. I was told to check out auctions on the www.treasurydirect.gov website and found them to not apply to citizens wanting to buy savings bonds to support a cause such as energy independance. I was told by the treasury department to look into CREB (Clean Renewable Energy Bonds). I found CREB to be large scale funding that a citizen would not be able to participate in as a US Treasury Energy Independance Bond would provide. If given the tools to participate directly, the power of the citizens of the United States to help achieve energy independance could not be denied. Americans mean well and the Energy Independance Savings bond program will give citizens the power at their level to make it happen. If marketed through a web page, commercials, and to federal employees the word would get out and participation would spread like wildfire.
Mr. Paul Gipe, a resident of Bakersfield CA, an author of several books about wind energy, and recipient of multiple awards as a pioneer in the industry since the 1970's has put a letter I wrote to Senator Dorgan on this subject as well as an older letter I wrote on wind COOP in JAN07. These websites are:
http://www.wind-works.org/coopwind/RenewableEnergyBondsforEnergyIndependence.html
and
http://www.wind-works.org/articles/AmericanEnergyIndependencethroughCooperativeInvestmentinWindEnergy.html
Sincerely and very respectfully,
ETC(SW/AW) Mike Kendall USN
Mailing address: PSC 476, Box 879, FPO AP, 96322 USA
Telephone (803) 265-4756, Email: ke6cvh@yahoo.com
BTW the water cell mostly DOES NOT WORK. More energy in than out. The commercial way of producing hydrogen is to strip the Carbon atom from Methane since it yeilds four Hydrogens for each breakup. The Mythbusters did a series on it using VERY EXACT directions and never got one unit to even come close to generating enough energy to power itself much less a car.
Jim Gigoux
I appreciate your interest and invite you to check out our website:
AmericanFuelVehicles.com
You can contact us through the site, or please call. Thank You!
tai@h2go.info
801-201-7370
We are the only CNG upfitters that are members of the Society of Automotive Engineeers. This is our life, we are doing it and we are looking to expand to help more people chosse the clenaerr, safer, local fuels for transportation requirements.
Thank You!
Tai
Thank You!
Tai Robinson
www.AmericanFuelVehicles.com
801-201-7370
It's an interesting outline - and presumably you have a brief introduction as to the point of the business plan. In any case, I wonder why you posted it to my page - and not here (in a blog for example).
Clynton
Fred Robinson has been working to convert standard automobiles to run on alternative fuels for more than 30 years. The Stagecoach-area resident lives in a solar-powered home he built himself and converted a 2003 Hummer H2 so it can run on several different fuels, including hydrogen and ethanol. Unleaded is an option, too, he said, when he finds himself far from an alternative-fuel station. — Photo by Joel Reichenberger
Local continues lifetime of work in alternative fuels
By Margaret Hair
The Steamboat Pilot
STEAMBOAT SPRINGS, Colo. -- In Fred Robinson's auto repair shop near Stagecoach, items that can run on alternative fuels abound.
There's the H2-H2, a Hummer Robinson converted to run on a combination of hydrogen, natural gas, ethanol and gasoline. There's the H-racer, a tiny hydrogen fuel cell car made by Horizon Fuel Cell Technologies. And there's the wood-burning stove pumping warm air into the room -- it's not burning a fossil fuel, so Robinson says it counts as alternative.
A busted-up Volkswagen that Robinson has been repairing rests on a jack on the shop floor; the three decades of car parts and alternative fuel memorabilia line the walls.
Click here to find out more!
Weaning the world off petroleum has been a passion for Robinson since 1975, when he worked with a friend in Tampa Bay, Fla., to convert a diesel engine to run partially on natural gas. The next year, he built a solar-powered house in Henderson Park, with picture windows offering sunlight for heat and views of the now defunct Stagecoach ski area.
As the founder of Inter-galactic Hydrogen -- a car conversion and educational company he runs with his son, Tai -- Robinson experienced a surge of interest in his varied knowledge of alternative fuel sources this spring, when national gas price averages topped the $4-per-gallon mark.
"I did a lot of presentations during that period," Robinson said, explaining that interest in his resources is closely linked with increasing and decreasing prices for fossil fuels. That interest has waned recently, as national gas price averages have declined.
"We have a message. And right now, with cheap gasoline, nobody's listening," Robinson said, adding that while some interest remains, he's not getting as many calls to convert gasoline engines to run on natural gas. Last summer, he worked on four such conversions.
In his workshop on a recent Thursday afternoon, Robinson proudly displayed a collection of "thank you" cards he had picked up from Steamboat Springs Middle School the day before. He said the sixth-grade students asked more direct questions about how cars can run on hydrogen than many adults do.
"I've been doing this around here for five years, and this is the biggest reward I've gotten so far," Robinson said, holding an oversized card decorated with markers. Since he worked on his first diesel engine conversion more than 30 years ago, Robinson has devoured information coming out of the world of alternative fuels, reading about the subject and going to as many fuel meetings and energy conferences as he could afford.
"I've just fallen into it. There were several times where I've been in the right place at the right time, and it's just meant to be," he said, explaining his seemingly effortless understanding about the scientific processes that allow 20 percent of a ground-up tree to be converted into usable hydrogen, or make it possible for algae to produce renewable fuels.
Robinson's persistence in seeking funding and curiosity for that science has paid off. In his next project, he plans to convert two diesel trucks to run on natural gas. The hope is to work hydrogen into the mix as a primary fuel source.
"Hydrogen is our goal; that's the one we want most. But we have to go through the others to get there," Robinson said. Using hydrogen as fuel is expensive, but Robinson thinks that once the infrastructure is there, production prices will decrease. In any case, it's not likely Robinson's desire to build or fix things will fade.
"I've always been a mechanic. As soon as I was old enough to walk and talk, I was playing with cars and making funny noises," he said. Even if -- as Robinson disparagingly said -- he hasn't achieved anything concrete locally, he's sure to keep trying.
"It feels good. It's hard to explain, especially with all the negative publicity about the climate and the politics and the economy, but if I'm driving down the street and I know I'm not using any gasoline, it's really empowering," he said.
Robinson’s efforts to help the world adapt to alternative fuels are big and small. In addition to converting a 2003 Hummer H2 sports utility vehicle to run on alternative fuels, he sells this small hydrogen-powered toy car, which is made by Horizon Fuel Cell Technologies. It hooks to a machine that converts regular water to hydrogen fuel, which is in turn powered by a small solar panel. Photo by Joel Reichenberger
www.IntergalacticHydrogen.com
www.AmericanFuelVehicles.com
Those ideas are great. Might I suggest that you save them in a blog - before they get buried by new comments on my page. After that, we'll need to have the rest of the folks here review and possibly get on board - or at least refine it to a strategy that we can all implement. I'm not sure what the Organization is planning, but they've been very quiet as of late. Post your blog and let's forward it up the chain to see if they will get on board (unless they have some other idea they are planning to go live with).
Thanks for the response.
Clynton
Thanks for the note,
Clynton
I am on my way out right now....but can you tell me if you know how to convert to CNG? I have a Jeep Commander, 06. I've been told there are NO EPA conversion kits for Chrysler... True?
I'm in Santa Barbara. Great to meet you!
Diane
Maybe we can converse later today.
Keep me posted if you happen to find out how President Obama plans to invest those billions. My guess is that it will be through Congress - and then perhaps through the Federal Acquisition process (i.e. FebBizOps.gov), but hopefully the SBA is given direct monies to find and invest in start ups with great potential. Throw the spaghetti against the wall - funding with an initial amount and pour a ton of cash into what sticks... That's probably the best way to get us to the moon in terms of alt-energy replacement of foreign oil.
JMO - Clynton
Rant not want not.
IJL Ventures Inc. is ready to go into production and market what it produces, Fuel, Fiber, and Bio polymers. The mills that produce are 0 emission and use non-edible bio-mass. Capital required for 1st phase is 2 million and return on investment based on participation level. Open to dialogue.
glad to see you joined squidoo, if you need assistance there is quite a bit available. Let them know you were refered by me, (I get brownie points:)) and when you finish your first lens let me know so I can have a look. Take care, stay in touch
Robert West
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