PD. Are you "sold" on that area of Brazil or open? Real question. I am just now getting more info on the Island property. Me wife says fine... just find the money. Maybe a partner or two, large enough place. I could not leave our D.R. place for long unattended.
IF you are interested, let me know. Still getting info.
PD. If you are going to Brazil, you might want to learn about the Villas Boas brothers in the Xingu area of Brazil. I met them in the mid 1960s on 3 different expeditions when I was in the area. I remember Orlando Villas Boas very well.
Amazon. The Tribe that Hides from Man by Adrian Cowell. Make sure to order in English.
I just remembered the Villas Boas names after trying to for years, and started Googleing.
Ask your Brazilian friends, maybe they have heard of them and the work they did.
Sorry. I've been busy gathering some information about Tom Delor. The guy that keeps spamming his moment o meter... $248.. Found some stuff on this scammer. Google: Tom Delor, Thomas Delor, moment o meter, 1800asontv, 1888autoctr. Note who/he wrote most of his own press releases.
His profile here shows that he is a different man… lol
lol. I get on my puter at about 6 am/est. You've already posted 4 or more hours before... and.."spot on" and a few other UK.. things?
Just had to wonder, some of my old habits.
Thank you for your informitive posts and clear thinkings.... most of the time:) lol. No one can stop themselves from going over the edge all the time. Don't look at some of my posts in other threads.
You may have to type in the whole thing. Price is very nice. Location and size is.. very nice. Lynn is thinking. I'm looking at going down in a couple/few months.
What did you have for dinner with your Brazilian friends? A mixture of meats in a sauce ... over rice. I wish I could remember how to spell it.
'Green-collar' jobs a growth area, U.S. group says
Companies are stepping up their environmental initiatives, and that may mean a boom in "green-collar" jobs.
A recent forecast by the American Solar Energy Society found that renewable energy and energy-efficient industries were responsible for the creation of nearly 8.5 million jobs in 2006, and by 2030 that number is expected to reach 40 million.
Colleges and universities are taking notice, according to Challenger, Gray & Christmas Inc., a job placement consulting group.
Many have introduced specialized degree programs in eco-commerce, environmental accounting, green and social marketing, and ecological economics.
"The demand for 'green-collar' jobs is really exploding, especially as the cost of energy continues to climb," said John Challenger, the group's chief executive. "Students need to start thinking about developing skills that will give them an edge for these types of careers that did not even exist until recently."
Popular jobs include urban planners, forestry professionals and environmental lawyers, Challenger said. There is also a growing demand for architects and engineers with Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) certification from the U.S. Green Building Council, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit.
BTW; Everyone thinks that Bud was bought by the Belgian Company, InBev. Look who manages, major stock holders and what/where the company supports. www.inbev.com
At 4:38am on August 7th, 2008, American in the D.R. said…
I lived in Rio as a teenager in the mid 1960s. I loved it. My wife and I keep trying to go, but just have not been able to. Maybe next year.
As you may know, Brazil has no energy problems and a very stable gov. and Real. I have been investing in more Brazilian stocks. I have also been looking a real estate... ya, just another lifeboat fallback.
When living in other countries, you had better know the situation and install security as/more then you need. It also depends on your professional and personal background/past and the lifestyle that you live.
Our place here has walls with an electric gate that we can open from the house. Security cameras. 2 barky watch dogs. Live in caretaker near the gate. Double paine reinforced glass windows and sliders, most interior doors with key dead bolts. Inside security systems. Designed the house with our bedroom on the second floor with a "safe" room and other ways out. Two armed gaurds for another property are 50 feet from our gate. We live at the end of a dead end street. I will not go into our personal defense toys. Car is a slightly reinforced Jeep with a big engine and tinted windows and remote start. We always are aware of who and what is going on around us. We never flash bling bling, money, wallets.
50Kw diesel generator with over 1000 gallons storage. One med. sized inverter and one large inverter. 40 batteries. Working with my little wind generator and will order a second. Whole house, including water purification system. Working on adding another 10,0000 gallon cistern to catch rain water that will bring us up to 60,000 gallons of water storage including the two small pools.
Most of this we planned on and installed years ago due to the general situation of crime and lack of power to meet our own lifestyle and comfort for ourselves and two rentals that we have on the property. Due to the costs of living increases and "runs" on some things, we started to stock more items. This was done just before the elections here 3 months ago. 50 chickens and 2 pigs in the freezer along with other items. We also have land that we have some fruit trees on and will start larger gardens.
Bought chickens from a farmer @ 29 pesos per lb. The stores are now over 60 pesos. 500 gallons of diesel when it was at about US $4.00 per gallon, it is now over $6.00 Civil unrest and small riots are becoming more common, but do not effect us were we live, other the price/cost of living.
Most Dominicans have big families that will pull together and do OK. Free fruit, fishing, wild chickens and small farms. Wood for cooking. We have no freezing winters. We will share with some of our friends so that we do not appear to be hidding and hording behind our walls. It is better to have people working with us and not trying to rob us.
I am more concerned for my daughter/family in CA if a depression sets in. We also have a few remote acres in CA. and 500 acres/old farm, family owned in New England. To many people all packed together with no idea how to survive other then by force. We have space for family and have friends with private jets that we can crawl to if needed.
Know that I have gone on and on, sorry. I hope that I have answered some of your questions. Keep in mind that most of what we have done would be "normal". We are now just "upgrading".
If you find some good property in Brazil... let me know.
Sorry for the bad spelling and typos, on my first cup of coffee.
PD, I'll send this to you. I don't know if it will make any sense to anyone. So do as you wish. Post/edit/trash. Regards, ADR
Some of you may be wondering what my experiences in the Dominican Republic have to do with America?
(I do not wish to enter into if or what trade agreements are/were good or bad. I don’t want to get into the “selling of American jobs” overseas. I do not want to get into political debates. These are things that have already happened and are a reality. These things are better left for each person to change at the voting booth. Thank you.)
First of all, my wife and I are still Americans and still pay U.S. taxes and vote. My wife and I semi retired from our big old New Hampshire home a few years ago and we still have lots of family in the States.
Second. What happens in America effects the whole World. Smaller and poorer countries are much more vulnerable to the social and economic downturns in the U.S. These countries could be watched and studied as a possible hint of what could happen to some of the wealthier countries.
The Dominican Republic depends on tourist for most of the income. When the American and European tourist don’t have money, they don’t travel. No tourist, no income. No income, the government has to cut subsides and services. Fuel and food increase in price and begin to become scarce. Fuel subsidies cut, the price of electricity goes up and black outs happen (25.7 cents per Kwh). No electricity causes cuts water. No water for the agricultural sector means food reductions/crop failures. Food reductions means higher prices AND exports to the U.S. go down. Less exports to the U.S. means higher prices in the U.S. stores.
The same thing happens in the manufacturing and finished products sectors. No affordable, when available, electricity, no water. No manufacturing, no jobs, no exports to the U.S. Higher prices in the U.S. (BTW, many U.S. companies are/were here in the Trade Free Zones.)
So now we have a country with no income and no jobs. It has borrowed from other countries based on future income from a once thriving and growing tourist and export industries. Ooops. No income to pay on their loans… at all. No payments, no more credit.
So now the Dominican Republic has to rely on other countries, including the U.S., to renegotiate those loans and for them to send aid. It is not uncommon to see the fuel tankers sit off shore while the utilities try to figure out how to pay for at least part so the tankers will enter port. The one generating plant in our area has not only used up the full years budget, but owes $125,000,000 as of last month.
For many years, more and more Americans would come down to the Dominican Republic for a vacation. The U.S. dollar went a looong way down here. The U.S. benefited from the agricultural products and U.S. companies enjoyed a tax free situation that supplied some of the American markets.
Now let’s compare the Dominican Republic to my home State of New Hampshire. They are about the same size.
Tourist dollars down. Fuel/food prices up. Manufacturing and industry cutting back and closing. Jobs lost. More and more people having problems paying electric bills, credit cards, taxes and losing their homes. Winter heating fuels are a very real concern. Schools don’t have enough money to cover the full school year. (Budgets voted and approved last year.) Many towns have already used up this years budgets. The State broke. Ooops.
Saw your discussion on the million march. I think the
folks that join the plan are your march. If we continue to build this group to an army it will be heard. The louder we can all be the better. Here is a copy of what I write after reading the last 18,000 profiles.
"Welcome to the chance to make a difference in our lives!
Here's how you can help.
PLEASE email the Pickens Plan video to everyone you know. www.pickensplan.com. Ask them to JOIN. Ask them to pass it along. Time is of the essence. If every member had 10 friends join today, we could put the number of members over 1 million very quickly!
If we can not get critical numbers how can we take advantage of this golden opportunity? High gas prices have "woken up" America to our plight and a paradigm shift like not other is in the wind. We need to do this now.
So many new members write "I want to help, what can I do?" This is a start. We may not get to the next step if we can not get this one done. Our leaders can not ignore millions of members of the Pickens Plan. We are not there yet. .
If you have a connection to the press- get them to cover this.
If you know someone who blogs- get them to cover this.
If you can write a letter to your Representative or Senator- get them to see this.
We added close to 3,000 members yesterday.... it should be 10 times that!
Have a nice day. Please let me know how it goes. "
If we can put all our energy into supporting Pickens he will get this done.
The stars are aligned.... we have an angry citizenry due to high gas prices, a presidential election in November, and a man with a plan, with money, connections and clout, and the will to get it done.
How lucky are we. We just need to follow hard!
Keep encouraging your folks to bring more members.
It is encouraging to see both presidnetial hopefuls tripping over themselves to talk about energy. It is only because they know that we want to talk about it. Take the pressure off and we will lose this traction.
I've enjoyed the info under "How much time" discussion. I follow a pretty good economist (Roubini) so I'm familiar with what's coming (and the underlying causes).I believe there are some really difficult times coming but I also hope that in the long term it will bring beneficial change to American society. Any prudent person believes in reserving some resources for a rainy day. 70% of GDP consumer spending of oil dependent goods and easy credit - anybody who was paying even a little bit of attention could have seen this coming!
We've got a little acreage, a well and a few horses I think I should train to plow just in case it gets that bad.
Central Fl people:
We have the Citrus County Central Ridge Library public meeting room reserved for a Pickens plan meeting on 6 August at 3pm.
click my name for contact info.
Hi Peak Dad,
thanks for your encouragement...I try to do 1 hour of posting to Discussion groups, maybe I'll get a few people to move from "thinking about it" to actually contacting Congress, etc. GL with your efforts, Phil
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If you and yours can come down, let me know. Time for a beer and BBQ... in Miami?
IF you are interested, let me know. Still getting info.
Regards... ADR
Amazon. The Tribe that Hides from Man by Adrian Cowell. Make sure to order in English.
I just remembered the Villas Boas names after trying to for years, and started Googleing.
Ask your Brazilian friends, maybe they have heard of them and the work they did.
Good luck
His profile here shows that he is a different man… lol
When my posts are sane, I've been sleeping well. When I flip my lid... usually very tired.
Thanks ADR.
Just had to wonder, some of my old habits.
Thank you for your informitive posts and clear thinkings.... most of the time:) lol. No one can stop themselves from going over the edge all the time. Don't look at some of my posts in other threads.
BTW:http://www.propertyshowrooms.com/brazil/property/rio%20de%20janeiro/house-villa-in-angra-dos-reis-478422.html
You may have to type in the whole thing. Price is very nice. Location and size is.. very nice. Lynn is thinking. I'm looking at going down in a couple/few months.
What did you have for dinner with your Brazilian friends? A mixture of meats in a sauce ... over rice. I wish I could remember how to spell it.
Thanks
Companies are stepping up their environmental initiatives, and that may mean a boom in "green-collar" jobs.
A recent forecast by the American Solar Energy Society found that renewable energy and energy-efficient industries were responsible for the creation of nearly 8.5 million jobs in 2006, and by 2030 that number is expected to reach 40 million.
Colleges and universities are taking notice, according to Challenger, Gray & Christmas Inc., a job placement consulting group.
Many have introduced specialized degree programs in eco-commerce, environmental accounting, green and social marketing, and ecological economics.
"The demand for 'green-collar' jobs is really exploding, especially as the cost of energy continues to climb," said John Challenger, the group's chief executive. "Students need to start thinking about developing skills that will give them an edge for these types of careers that did not even exist until recently."
Popular jobs include urban planners, forestry professionals and environmental lawyers, Challenger said. There is also a growing demand for architects and engineers with Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) certification from the U.S. Green Building Council, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit.
BTW; Everyone thinks that Bud was bought by the Belgian Company, InBev. Look who manages, major stock holders and what/where the company supports. www.inbev.com
I lived in Rio as a teenager in the mid 1960s. I loved it. My wife and I keep trying to go, but just have not been able to. Maybe next year.
As you may know, Brazil has no energy problems and a very stable gov. and Real. I have been investing in more Brazilian stocks. I have also been looking a real estate... ya, just another lifeboat fallback.
When living in other countries, you had better know the situation and install security as/more then you need. It also depends on your professional and personal background/past and the lifestyle that you live.
Our place here has walls with an electric gate that we can open from the house. Security cameras. 2 barky watch dogs. Live in caretaker near the gate. Double paine reinforced glass windows and sliders, most interior doors with key dead bolts. Inside security systems. Designed the house with our bedroom on the second floor with a "safe" room and other ways out. Two armed gaurds for another property are 50 feet from our gate. We live at the end of a dead end street. I will not go into our personal defense toys. Car is a slightly reinforced Jeep with a big engine and tinted windows and remote start. We always are aware of who and what is going on around us. We never flash bling bling, money, wallets.
50Kw diesel generator with over 1000 gallons storage. One med. sized inverter and one large inverter. 40 batteries. Working with my little wind generator and will order a second. Whole house, including water purification system. Working on adding another 10,0000 gallon cistern to catch rain water that will bring us up to 60,000 gallons of water storage including the two small pools.
Most of this we planned on and installed years ago due to the general situation of crime and lack of power to meet our own lifestyle and comfort for ourselves and two rentals that we have on the property. Due to the costs of living increases and "runs" on some things, we started to stock more items. This was done just before the elections here 3 months ago. 50 chickens and 2 pigs in the freezer along with other items. We also have land that we have some fruit trees on and will start larger gardens.
Bought chickens from a farmer @ 29 pesos per lb. The stores are now over 60 pesos. 500 gallons of diesel when it was at about US $4.00 per gallon, it is now over $6.00 Civil unrest and small riots are becoming more common, but do not effect us were we live, other the price/cost of living.
Most Dominicans have big families that will pull together and do OK. Free fruit, fishing, wild chickens and small farms. Wood for cooking. We have no freezing winters. We will share with some of our friends so that we do not appear to be hidding and hording behind our walls. It is better to have people working with us and not trying to rob us.
I am more concerned for my daughter/family in CA if a depression sets in. We also have a few remote acres in CA. and 500 acres/old farm, family owned in New England. To many people all packed together with no idea how to survive other then by force. We have space for family and have friends with private jets that we can crawl to if needed.
Know that I have gone on and on, sorry. I hope that I have answered some of your questions. Keep in mind that most of what we have done would be "normal". We are now just "upgrading".
If you find some good property in Brazil... let me know.
Sorry for the bad spelling and typos, on my first cup of coffee.
Regards ADR.
Some of you may be wondering what my experiences in the Dominican Republic have to do with America?
(I do not wish to enter into if or what trade agreements are/were good or bad. I don’t want to get into the “selling of American jobs” overseas. I do not want to get into political debates. These are things that have already happened and are a reality. These things are better left for each person to change at the voting booth. Thank you.)
First of all, my wife and I are still Americans and still pay U.S. taxes and vote. My wife and I semi retired from our big old New Hampshire home a few years ago and we still have lots of family in the States.
Second. What happens in America effects the whole World. Smaller and poorer countries are much more vulnerable to the social and economic downturns in the U.S. These countries could be watched and studied as a possible hint of what could happen to some of the wealthier countries.
The Dominican Republic depends on tourist for most of the income. When the American and European tourist don’t have money, they don’t travel. No tourist, no income. No income, the government has to cut subsides and services. Fuel and food increase in price and begin to become scarce. Fuel subsidies cut, the price of electricity goes up and black outs happen (25.7 cents per Kwh). No electricity causes cuts water. No water for the agricultural sector means food reductions/crop failures. Food reductions means higher prices AND exports to the U.S. go down. Less exports to the U.S. means higher prices in the U.S. stores.
The same thing happens in the manufacturing and finished products sectors. No affordable, when available, electricity, no water. No manufacturing, no jobs, no exports to the U.S. Higher prices in the U.S. (BTW, many U.S. companies are/were here in the Trade Free Zones.)
So now we have a country with no income and no jobs. It has borrowed from other countries based on future income from a once thriving and growing tourist and export industries. Ooops. No income to pay on their loans… at all. No payments, no more credit.
So now the Dominican Republic has to rely on other countries, including the U.S., to renegotiate those loans and for them to send aid. It is not uncommon to see the fuel tankers sit off shore while the utilities try to figure out how to pay for at least part so the tankers will enter port. The one generating plant in our area has not only used up the full years budget, but owes $125,000,000 as of last month.
For many years, more and more Americans would come down to the Dominican Republic for a vacation. The U.S. dollar went a looong way down here. The U.S. benefited from the agricultural products and U.S. companies enjoyed a tax free situation that supplied some of the American markets.
Now let’s compare the Dominican Republic to my home State of New Hampshire. They are about the same size.
Tourist dollars down. Fuel/food prices up. Manufacturing and industry cutting back and closing. Jobs lost. More and more people having problems paying electric bills, credit cards, taxes and losing their homes. Winter heating fuels are a very real concern. Schools don’t have enough money to cover the full school year. (Budgets voted and approved last year.) Many towns have already used up this years budgets. The State broke. Ooops.
Saw your discussion on the million march. I think the
folks that join the plan are your march. If we continue to build this group to an army it will be heard. The louder we can all be the better. Here is a copy of what I write after reading the last 18,000 profiles.
"Welcome to the chance to make a difference in our lives!
Here's how you can help.
PLEASE email the Pickens Plan video to everyone you know. www.pickensplan.com. Ask them to JOIN. Ask them to pass it along. Time is of the essence. If every member had 10 friends join today, we could put the number of members over 1 million very quickly!
If we can not get critical numbers how can we take advantage of this golden opportunity? High gas prices have "woken up" America to our plight and a paradigm shift like not other is in the wind. We need to do this now.
So many new members write "I want to help, what can I do?" This is a start. We may not get to the next step if we can not get this one done. Our leaders can not ignore millions of members of the Pickens Plan. We are not there yet. .
If you have a connection to the press- get them to cover this.
If you know someone who blogs- get them to cover this.
If you can write a letter to your Representative or Senator- get them to see this.
We added close to 3,000 members yesterday.... it should be 10 times that!
Have a nice day. Please let me know how it goes. "
If we can put all our energy into supporting Pickens he will get this done.
The stars are aligned.... we have an angry citizenry due to high gas prices, a presidential election in November, and a man with a plan, with money, connections and clout, and the will to get it done.
How lucky are we. We just need to follow hard!
Keep encouraging your folks to bring more members.
It is encouraging to see both presidnetial hopefuls tripping over themselves to talk about energy. It is only because they know that we want to talk about it. Take the pressure off and we will lose this traction.
HAve a great summer day!
Kim
We've got a little acreage, a well and a few horses I think I should train to plow just in case it gets that bad.
You are thinking of Canton. Canton is one of the largest in the country.
WA
We have the Citrus County Central Ridge Library public meeting room reserved for a Pickens plan meeting on 6 August at 3pm.
click my name for contact info.
thanks for your encouragement...I try to do 1 hour of posting to Discussion groups, maybe I'll get a few people to move from "thinking about it" to actually contacting Congress, etc. GL with your efforts, Phil
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